Topic: Live Streaming Games (Read 16649 times)

ProCricketer1982 · « **on:** March 10, 2021, 09:53:33 AM »

All,
What interest is there is clubs/teams live streaming their games ? So, PCS Pro charge nearly 2k for their single camera and I've built a very billy basic system using Pis, IP Camera's , TP Links etc.

cost to buy..circa 500 max (this gives you 4 camera's , 2 at each end (one normal on the wicket.. one zoomed out to see fielding)).

just wondering if I should basically message a load of local clubs to see if they want it? saves people paying stupid money for PCS (as this rips out the same stats from PCS anyway and displays it).. it's also idiot proof.. once you power the pi on, it literally works.

What would people love to see recording wise?

So, I've got a training solution which basically is a much better frame rate so you can quite literally, see the seam the whole way down for example.
Match day solution
Simple solution if you anted to take it to away games
even got one for indoor training and indoor cricket etc..

Even got a little mic for stump mic

Neon Cricket · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2021, 10:21:50 AM »

That'd definitely be of interest to my club mate, especially the training aspect (although not sure stump mic would be a good idea with our keeper

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greeny · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2021, 10:58:32 AM »

We've just purchased a pretty decent camera to be a static cam to record our games. i spent a lot of time researching IP cameras and stuff but couldn't really find anything which would be of a suitable 'zoom' or reach the magical 50/60 frames per second.

Would like to have a set up like this but we basically had no budget to work with! We're not really interested at this stage for the PCS integration, as our ground is in the middle of nowhere (no internet), but just for recording memories and for training purposes. (As well as having evidence when members of the opposition kick off and start acting like doughnuts!

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Kez · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2021, 11:01:33 AM »

Pro,

would you be able to share information of a decent IP camera or the specs that would allow for decent viewing.

I agree the PCS costs seem high and even with a little knowledge people can get very similar set ups for a fraction of the cost.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2021, 11:12:43 AM »

Let me remember how to do a picture on here

So, out of interested I started using simple USB Logitech webcams with zoom purely for dev. These actually work quite well but it's the PTZ function you want . So 1080P is the bare min you want and you have to keep an eye between what you stream 'live' and what quality you want for training. Bandwidth is not your friend for transmitting high frame rates remember live.

anyway.. when I remember how o do pics, I'll show you the main IP Camera I'll use for outside.. Inside nets is easier still. also 3d printing cases and hardened ones for training when it get invariably smashed by the ball

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2021, 11:14:38 AM »

Quote from: Neon Cricket on March 10, 2021, 10:21:50 AM

That'd definitely be of interest to my club mate, especially the training aspect (although not sure stump mic would be a good idea with our keeper )

Stump mic was just playing.. not sure it's ever viable really

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2021, 11:18:48 AM »

Quote from: greeny on March 10, 2021, 10:58:32 AM

We've just purchased a pretty decent camera to be a static cam to record our games. i spent a lot of time researching IP cameras and stuff but couldn't really find anything which would be of a suitable 'zoom' or reach the magical 50/60 frames per second.

Would like to have a set up like this but we basically had no budget to work with! We're not really interested at this stage for the PCS integration, as our ground is in the middle of nowhere (no internet), but just for recording memories and for training purposes. (As well as having evidence when members of the opposition kick off and start acting like doughnuts! )

so you can just record it easily enough to local storage.. not a problem. Only issue is how much storage then you want etc etc (data protection if online etc)

Oh, I want to eventually do no ball/stumpings too

not having PCS attached is super simple.. hell, I can send you a micro SD card for one pi if you want.... with a basic streaming ready to go

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2021, 11:25:26 AM »

Quote from: Kez on March 10, 2021, 11:01:33 AM

Pro,

would you be able to share information of a decent IP camera or the specs that would allow for decent viewing.

I agree the PCS costs seem high and even with a little knowledge people can get very similar set ups for a fraction of the cost.

so, something like this..

https://www.fruugo.co.uk/1080p-30x-zoom-poe-20mp-ptz-wired-camera-system-pantilt-speed-dome-camera-audio-waterproof-home-se/p-54312507-110155150?language=en&ac=croud&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpZC-qc6l7wIVDq-yCh2ZGwYQEAQYASABEgJCUvD_BwE

I would go to bang good though ... cheaper

You can go better, bigger... but as always.. costs more.

the frame rate can be increased in bits of software as an FYI..

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2021, 11:28:10 AM »

also, did initially look at this one

hisses H.265 1080P POE PTZ IP Camera, 4x digital zoom, 2mp .. only 25 quid on bang good for example. Perfectly good but just not quite as good as the one earlier for example. All depends how much money you want to spend really and the outcome/agility.

a simple pi camera with zoom will do training for example .. don't need to spend loads!

SurreySam · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2021, 11:53:50 AM »

Great topic. Have you got any footage to upload, so we can gauge quality?

As that's my biggest gripe with some of these packaged systems. Some are acceptable on a sunny day but really then struggle, once the ISO is cranked up for low light levels on early season cloudy days.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2021, 01:27:16 PM »

Quote from: SurreySam on March 10, 2021, 11:53:50 AM

Great topic. Have you got any footage to upload, so we can gauge quality?

As that's my biggest gripe with some of these packaged systems. Some are acceptable on a sunny day but really then struggle, once the ISO is cranked up for low light levels on early season cloudy days.

I am doing some streaming from the ground tomorrow so will put the YouTube up..

Just been doing clips of the ball currently get the frame rate right.. aka.. you can then really see all you need for technical coaching (seam position, finger etc etc)

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2021, 01:36:09 PM »

Quote from: SurreySam on March 10, 2021, 11:53:50 AM

Great topic. Have you got any footage to upload, so we can gauge quality?

As that's my biggest gripe with some of these packaged systems. Some are acceptable on a sunny day but really then struggle, once the ISO is cranked up for low light levels on early season cloudy days.

I actually agree. I've been quite disappointed with the PCS option as it cuts out as it advises people to use WiFi.. better off just running cat6a or fibre (with converter) to ensure connectivity. Also, as you say.. it depends what you'd like .. in game , takes a lot of bandwidth to stream 120+fps, hence most doing it at 60fps.

training wise though, you can up that to 200+ and really get the quality footage (which is good for technical coaching or just selling to players generally)

123* · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2021, 08:34:58 PM »

We�ve just paid for FrogBox. Looks a decent option from what I�ve seen of the videos!

Kez · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2021, 08:57:56 PM »

Quote from: 123* on March 10, 2021, 08:34:58 PM

We�ve just paid for FrogBox. Looks a decent option from what I�ve seen of the videos!

These seem quite expensive option as well. �1300 for a �300 camcorder a tripod that doesn't look too stable.
And then �275/�500 for streaming your matches every year.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 11, 2021, 01:10:55 PM »

Quote from: 123* on March 10, 2021, 08:34:58 PM

We�ve just paid for FrogBox. Looks a decent option from what I�ve seen of the videos!

what do you get for your money?

I'm not against them in any way btw!!! They are a business so charge what they think is reasonable for the kit and profit

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