Topic: Live Streaming Games (Read 16335 times)

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 29, 2021, 06:37:09 PM »

Random thing I've noticed while fitting out some clubs with cameras... Internet UPLOAD bandwidths.... It's amazing how many clubs have really poor upload speeds. Out of interest, what sort of UPLOAD speeds do you guys have at your clubs generally?

BitsandBats · « **Reply #31 on:** July 30, 2021, 05:27:22 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on July 19, 2021, 04:03:10 PM

Little update.

Quite a few clubs have taken up the system and I'm improving it every week. Tweaking kit here, software there etc. If anyone is genuinely thinking of paying over the odds for some of the current systems then give me a shout. Really not interested in making money out of it but do love that people are getting online with all the benefits it brings.

Just interested on this idea/the idea of streaming in general. Would you mind giving an idea of the price?? Its something I would like to put forward to the club but I no idea on cost etc. As far as I know we have WiFi but I do not believe 4G or decent speed so would probably need its own broadband etc, in a town centre though so good speeds. Thinking of a single camera one end that could be fixed to a site screen, be of good enough quality to be zoomed in onto the Wicket (not bothered about fielding cameras etc) and ideally I would like it to be linked up to PCS however if this was ridiculous in cost then probably not really.

TIA! Any other input would be much appreciated in regards to what people have found works and doesn't work etc!

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 30, 2021, 06:22:50 PM »

Connecting to sight screen can be in various ways and depends on the sight screen.. Do you want to get more height or is the sight screen enough? do you want the perfect angle or happy to have it miles to the left or right?

Linking to PCS Pro is stupidly easy. They've done a great job BUT.. the issue isn't using with PCS Pro.. How many teams or clubs use PCS Pro for every game??? not a high %%.. How do you stream ALL games from all the age groups, womens, saturday 2xi, 3xi, 4xi, sundays etc etc.. THAT'S the tricky part

Thorne_Cricket · « **Reply #33 on:** August 11, 2022, 11:25:52 AM »

My club (Chingford) have recently purchased the NV Play Elite kit and I managed to get myself involved in it to help set it up for live streaming home matches. After finally managing to get it all up and working including the laptop and the configuration, due to the poor upload speed (2Mb/s) of the club's WiFi; the streams that I streamed kept buffering. Having recently spoken to a very experienced user, I will be trying some other methods to ensure that the stream can function accordingly; I have not yet been able to live stream it through PCS Pro as I was often playing.

123* · « **Reply #34 on:** August 11, 2022, 03:11:18 PM »

Have to say the clubs up here have gone about 50/50 between FrogBox and NV Play.

Personally FrogBox looks to be the more user friendly often, is portable and seems to have less drop outs than the others.

Thorne_Cricket · « **Reply #35 on:** August 11, 2022, 03:34:46 PM »

Quote from: 123* on August 11, 2022, 03:11:18 PM

Have to say the clubs up here have gone about 50/50 between FrogBox and NV Play.

Personally FrogBox looks to be the more user friendly often, is portable and seems to have less drop outs than the others.

It would have been more helpfully if we acquired it before the start of the season but now I have some great advice and guidance, I will work with the club to get what we need (if possible, as need a laptop with an 8th generation i7 processor and internet/WiFi with a minimum 10 Mb/s upload) along with ensuring the line of vision between the 2 access points between the camera and the connection to the laptop being used is clear as we have this trouble with interruption to the connection due to players/spectators walking in between; I am hoping to rectify this by placing the access point for the laptop higher and within close proximity of our scorebox as I have previously being doing this from our pavilion. I am going to suggest that we have our own independent internet connection (probably through a hotspot or a dongle) to improve the upload speed instead of relying on our poor internet we already have in situ.

123* · « **Reply #36 on:** August 12, 2022, 08:58:44 AM »

Seems to be a lot of effort, fair enough if you�re a big club and can get someone to do it but when you�re a small club and it�s left to the skipper to sort I can see why many can�t be bothered!

With the FrogBox it takes around three minutes to put up and be ready to go. It uses its own encoder and SIM card which makes things so easy.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 12, 2022, 09:56:35 AM »

Quote from: Thorne_Cricket on August 11, 2022, 11:25:52 AM

My club (Chingford) have recently purchased the NV Play Elite kit and I managed to get myself involved in it to help set it up for live streaming home matches. After finally managing to get it all up and working including the laptop and the configuration, due to the poor upload speed (2Mb/s) of the club's WiFi; the streams that I streamed kept buffering. Having recently spoken to a very experienced user, I will be trying some other methods to ensure that the stream can function accordingly; I have not yet been able to live stream it through PCS Pro as I was often playing.

many ways to do this better than NV Play sadly. Very costly method.

For the upload speed you can either approach your provider and pay for more upload or if your LTE/5G reception is good.. simply move the stream to that (it's never the best hence why frog box is poor outside of cities etc but still... might be better than you have now)

also, you can choose to drop the resolution down from 1080 to 720 or 460 for example.. again, lowers the bit rate etc etc.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 12, 2022, 09:59:10 AM »

Quote from: 123* on August 11, 2022, 03:11:18 PM

Have to say the clubs up here have gone about 50/50 between FrogBox and NV Play.

Personally FrogBox looks to be the more user friendly often, is portable and seems to have less drop outs than the others.

NV Play is by far the worst and most expensive option

FrogBox is expensive , single camera and naturally a year on year subscription cost

NV Play sadly will bring in a subscription cost for PCS as well which will hit clubs hard at the lower end

Setting up different systems is different. NV Play you can leave up each time, you don't have to remove it etc.. meaning the only set up is battery.

My set up is literally only the battery and boom.. it's up.. Obviously pCS PRO is configured but again, once it's done once it never changes... apart from starting the YouTube stream off it works (generally) well. Usually when it doesn't it's because 'someone' has decided to press things they shouldn't, break wires or just generally not accept they don't understand enough not to tinker.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 12, 2022, 10:03:21 AM »

Quote from: 123* on August 12, 2022, 08:58:44 AM

Seems to be a lot of effort, fair enough if you�re a big club and can get someone to do it but when you�re a small club and it�s left to the skipper to sort I can see why many can�t be bothered!

With the FrogBox it takes around three minutes to put up and be ready to go. It uses its own encoder and SIM card which makes things so easy.

Costs a lot up front for one camera, plus the cost of the SIM card per month and then the streaming licence per year... It's really not the best solution unless you're made of money.

Time wise - You can get a better set up, multiple cameras (even now with split screens in the feed) for about the same upfront cost and with no SIM card fee or yearly subscription.. set up time, the time it takes you to walk to each sight screen with a battery and plug it in..

Honestly, NV Play is very very expensive for one camera and FrogBox is very expensive and has yearly ongoing costs . Plus, with it being a SIM card, as soon as you are in a less than ideal reception area your stream is (No Swearing Please).

Anyway, glad people are streaming.. people really do love it!

mo_town · « **Reply #40 on:** August 12, 2022, 10:31:02 AM »

It would help if people mention their club names here as well so that neutrals like me and view and comment on quality etc.

123* · « **Reply #41 on:** August 12, 2022, 02:43:39 PM »

I�m sure what you�re saying is spot on ProCricketer but we are a small club in a rural area with no internet or permanent power, we rely on solar panels, we�ve found FrogBox is best for us, I�m sure it�s not the perfect product but works well with our limitations.

e4sby · « **Reply #42 on:** August 12, 2022, 04:57:58 PM »

Quote from: 123* on August 12, 2022, 02:43:39 PM

I�m sure what you�re saying is spot on ProCricketer but we are a small club in a rural area with no internet or permanent power, we rely on solar panels, we�ve found FrogBox is best for us, I�m sure it�s not the perfect product but works well with our limitations.

Rockliffe?

123* · « **Reply #43 on:** August 13, 2022, 03:05:10 AM »

Correct! Do you know the place?

e4sby · « **Reply #44 on:** August 15, 2022, 10:02:14 AM »

Quote from: 123* on August 13, 2022, 03:05:10 AM

Correct! Do you know the place?

Yeah, played there a few times when they were in the Darlington and District League

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