Topic: Butterfly Willow Bats - What are your thoughts? (Read 18010 times)

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2021, 12:24:37 PM »

I did not really know what one was when I first arrived here (admittedly quite a long time ago). I've still never used one, but would consider should I ever buy another bat. I think this forum has had the opposite effect on me that it has on some people; it's made me realise the futility of paying big money for bats. (Not that I ever really did.)

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2021, 05:37:11 PM »

As @LEACHY48 mentioned I don�t find them the easiest to shape and work with but from the ones I have had they have performed very well and I would certainly use one.

I know Dean from Vulcan is a big fan and believe he used one for many a season at a decent standard and scored lots of runs so nothing wrong with them at all.

Not even going to get into the grading price point on them as that�s each persons view but seeing as how in the main they are priced lower than they offer superb value especially from Companies that press a bat very well.

Alvaro · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2021, 09:06:39 PM »

I bought an H4L butterfly last year and sold it to a third eleven youngster.

He�s really happy with it, so good stuff all round.

bostoncricketer · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2021, 12:42:42 PM »

I have had 3 butterflys - one from Laver and 2 from Chase. One of the Chase ones is opening up nicely but that was hand picked by IJC. The other 2 are duds. I think the fact that these are seen as budget options might cause less attention to getting the perfect press or balance. Its a business after all and if the bat maker has finite amount of time, the most of it is going to go into getting the highest margin bat perfect. At least thats what I would do if my livelihood depended on it. And as with any willow at any price, there are good ones and bad ones.

SurreySam · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2021, 10:39:12 PM »

Not for me, I would rather find a nice sapwood bat with some faint hardbar marks showing through.

JTtaylor145 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2021, 09:48:36 AM »

Had some very good butterfly stained bats from Dean and B3.

I do think the prices has sky rocketed on them which is a real shame.

A good bat maker will make a good bat the majority of time and butterfly stained bats are no exception. Prefer butterfly stained bats to grade 3/4

AJ2014 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2021, 11:02:00 AM »

Quote from: JTtaylor145 on March 22, 2021, 09:48:36 AM

Had some very good butterfly stained bats from Dean and B3.

I do think the prices has sky rocketed on them which is a real shame.

A good bat maker will make a good bat the majority of time and butterfly stained bats are no exception. Prefer butterfly stained bats to grade 3/4

JT, would a decent butterfly bat not perform as good as grade 1😀🤔

JTtaylor145 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2021, 11:13:45 AM »

Quote from: AJ2014 on March 22, 2021, 11:02:00 AM

JT, would a decent butterfly bat not perform as good as grade 1😀🤔

In my opinion it is more about the person wielding the bat than the actual bat.

You can get a great performing butterfly bat and you can obviously get a great performing grade 1.

Watch me in the nets with a butterfly bat or a grade 1 and it will probably sound like a tin can but give it to someone better and it will sound like a gunshot going off.

As bat badgers we tend to over think. Give a good batsman a butterfly bat and he will score runs, give him a grade 1 and he will score runs. The common denominator is the good batsman.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2021, 11:23:00 AM »

Quote from: JTtaylor145 on March 22, 2021, 11:13:45 AM

In my opinion it is more about the person wielding the bat than the actual bat.

You can get a great performing butterfly bat and you can obviously get a great performing grade 1.

Watch me in the nets with a butterfly bat or a grade 1 and it will probably sound like a tin can but give it to someone better and it will sound like a gunshot going off.

As bat badgers we tend to over think. Give a good batsman a butterfly bat and he will score runs, give him a grade 1 and he will score runs. The common denominator is the good batsman.

I'm guessing you're a decent batter as well
Magic word is "over thinking"

JTtaylor145 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2021, 11:31:27 AM »

@AJ2014 Oh no I'm a terrible batsman hence the comment about bats sounding and going better once they are in the hands of better players.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 22, 2021, 11:38:10 AM »

Quote from: JTtaylor145 on March 22, 2021, 11:31:27 AM

@AJ2014 Oh no I'm a terrible batsman hence the comment about bats sounding and going better once they are in the hands of better players.

JT, I'm sure you've not found that right bat yet 😀😀

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2021, 01:01:25 PM »

Quote from: JTtaylor145 on March 22, 2021, 09:48:36 AM

A good bat maker will make a good bat the majority of time and butterfly stained bats are no exception. Prefer butterfly stained bats to grade 3/4

Not forgetting that butterfly is actually grade 4? (I think.)

Should we not at least give Paul Aldred some credit for being ahead of the curve on this?

AJ2014 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 22, 2021, 01:03:04 PM »

For sure, he deserves all the credits for promoting Butterfly bats the way he did and succeeded!

JTtaylor145 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 22, 2021, 01:16:17 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on March 22, 2021, 01:01:25 PM

Not forgetting that butterfly is actually grade 4? (I think.)

Should we not at least give Paul Aldred some credit for being ahead of the curve on this?

We should give Paul plenty of credit for being an excellent bat maker. I don't think he deserves a great deal of credit on his pricing structure in all honesty. But if people are willing to pay �290 for a butterfly stained bat it's completely up to them.

Buzz · « **Reply #29 on:** March 22, 2021, 01:24:05 PM »

On the wright's website butterfly can be graded up to a grade 2 bat.
You can get amazing clean straight grains with the stain on the back. Not often but occasionally.
Mostly they should be lower grade bats, but if you can try a few and find one you like, bargains are there to be had.
This is why I choose a batmaker who makes handles I like the shape of then I choose of the rack in my weight range.

This year my spikes cost more than my bat though... 😲

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