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Mpt7

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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2021, 03:38:13 PM »


Questions for you
Where do you want to bat?
What do you do that makes you a good fit for that spot?

Questions to ask your captain
Dear captain I want to bat in spot X - What do I need to do to get a opportunity to bat there?
Who am I competing with to get that spot?

The captain may want what you offer or he/she may not. Either way you’ll know where you stand and what you need to do to get in. Hopefully the captain has a plan

Good luck - hope you get what you want from your cricket

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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2021, 07:27:59 PM »

Nobody wants to open because it’s the hardest place to bat.

If you’re a good batsman you probably want to bat 4 because in most cases you won’t have to face the best bowling or the new ball.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2021, 07:36:59 PM »

Nobody wants to open because it’s the hardest place to bat.

If you’re a good batsman you probably want to bat 4 because in most cases you won’t have to face the best bowling or the new ball.

also this... Perfect game really is coming in to bat about the 15th over... .. new ball gone.. opening bowlers gone... Time to cash in
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2021, 07:47:14 PM »

I actually prefer opening the batting. Though, that’s mainly because I am useless against spin.

I’ll often make my way to about 20 or so off the opening bowlers, before a slow accurate ‘spinner’ who gets no turn comes on and I get bogged down. I detest those opening bowlers who bowl about 30mph and get late swing, I always fall prey to them.

A lot of our middle order are adamant they’d love to open the batting because they’ve never actually seen a ball swing before. Those who have tried in our team rarely make runs at the top of the order
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2021, 07:49:14 PM »

Opening the batting is great. It means I can umpire for 98% of our innings.
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2021, 08:14:21 PM »

Opening the batting is great. It means I can umpire for 98% of our innings.
Hahaha, Mark😀😀
This is why your blades look sooooo clean!
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2021, 08:37:37 PM »

Opening the batting is easier from 3rd XI downwards, isn't not true?
There are many many balls to hit them went be so defensive?
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2021, 09:53:45 PM »

Opening the batting is easier from 3rd XI downwards, isn't not true?
There are many many balls to hit them went be so defensive?

Why would lower sides not be opening the bowling with their best bowlers? I don't think there's any reason to believe the opening bowlers are not some of the toughest to face at any level.
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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2021, 10:39:28 PM »

Why would lower sides not be opening the bowling with their best bowlers? I don't think there's any reason to believe the opening bowlers are not some of the toughest to face at any level.
They'll be but that doesn't mean they'll be unplayable 😀 they could be pacy but will be wayward in their line and length.
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2021, 11:54:02 PM »

Why would lower sides not be opening the bowling with their best bowlers? I don't think there's any reason to believe the opening bowlers are not some of the toughest to face at any level.

My team has been promoted up and relegated down in the divisions and I can tell you from experience that opening bowlers are pretty good. They also have a new ball in their hands.
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2021, 11:56:04 PM »

They'll be but that doesn't mean they'll be unplayable 😀 they could be pacy but will be wayward in their line and length.

Not necessarily. If a league mandates that a new team/club starts at the lowest division of the league, you could end up facing future div-1 champs and they can be ruthless at any div level. By the same token, you could end up facing a relegated team from a higher division, and they may also have some serious bowlers. It is a lottery.

Seems like you are looking for short cuts and some lucky exception to facilitate your rise up in the batting ranks. You want to move up: become a consistent run scorer against all types of bowling. Simple, but not easy. :)
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« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2021, 12:23:33 AM »

They'll be but that doesn't mean they'll be unplayable 😀 they could be pacy but will be wayward in their line and length.

I don't think higher level opening bowlers are necessarily unplayable either unless you're playing at the elite standards of club cricket.

Particularly at big clubs you often find talented junior players or skilful older players who have dropped down the teams as they lose the physical strength to bowl fast will play in the lower sides and they can be very difficult to face.
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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2021, 06:40:56 AM »

I don't think higher level opening bowlers are necessarily unplayable either unless you're playing at the elite standards of club cricket.

Particularly at big clubs you often find talented junior players or skilful older players who have dropped down the teams as they lose the physical strength to bowl fast will play in the lower sides and they can be very difficult to face.
Agree
This is why I feel that openers should be a bit more aggressive, if they see anything loose, they should try to unsettle pacers, what I don't see often enough..
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Re: I think I can bat ...
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2021, 06:52:47 AM »

Agree
This is why I feel that openers should be a bit more aggressive, if they see anything loose, they should try to unsettle pacers, what I don't see often enough..

There is an easy fix to all of this.

Post some videos of you netting, tell us what standard you play and I’m sure we can work out whether you’re worth a do up the order 😂
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« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2021, 06:58:31 AM »

Not necessarily. If a league mandates that a new team/club starts at the lowest division of the league, you could end up facing future div-1 champs and they can be ruthless at any div level. By the same token, you could end up facing a relegated team from a higher division, and they may also have some serious bowlers. It is a lottery.

Seems like you are looking for short cuts and some lucky exception to facilitate your rise up in the batting ranks. You want to move up: become a consistent run scorer against all types of bowling. Simple, but not easy. :)
To be honest I don't see myself batting any higher than no. 8 unless we've only got 7 on the field 😀😀😀
But I don't like to be pinned at 10 or 11 🙂
I do get to bowl which allows me to add my share.
Depending on the match situation I have opened the bowling, with my off spin.
It's trickier than bowling pace with new ball, less margin of error 🙂
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