Topic: Steve Smith - FACA (Read 10636 times)

stamper · « **on:** March 31, 2021, 03:58:03 PM »

Steve Smith says he "would be keen" to return as Australia captain if the national selectors wanted him.

My opinion - Brass necked, brazen cheat. Shouldn't be a national captain again. And should accept this in interviews.

For balance, he also said "I feel as though I'd be in a better place if the opportunity did come up. If it doesn't, that's fine as well"

Problem is, others are touting Pat Cummins. He also played in the sandpaper test, and if he didn't know what was going on, then call me Bastamper Zuiderent.

ppccopener · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2021, 04:15:45 PM »

I always think is poor for any player to show interest in skippering when a team mate,current one at that, is doing the job.

Sure he might still have ambition to Captain again but it shows a degree of disrespect for Paine.Paine might be the worse skipper going I really don't know but it's almost irrelevant.

I think this might show us whether the ACB really do say and mean the same thing, a clear out of Smith and Warner from any higher honours than just players.

Smith,Warner and that unfortunate rookie they threw under the bus, Bancroft, all have served their bans, should be allowed to play again and earn a living.

But if they want to clean things up and really change as they said they would, making him skipper again would send the wrong message.

I'm not convinced the ACB really do want a clean up personally and would not be surprised if Smith was back in the frame in the next 12 months

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2021, 04:27:37 PM »

ACB should come out and say that he will NEVER captain again. They won�t though, and he will.

SD · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2021, 04:32:12 PM »

Bancroft was thrown under the bus to save the bowling unit. No question the bowlers knew exactly what was going on and had been doing this before the tour of South Africa. Cricket Australia took damage limitation measures to contain the fall pout and were pretty successful in both protecting the results from earlier games and protecting other members of the team from also getting bans.

I fully expect Smith to return as captain. Cricket Australia did the absolute minimum they thought they could get away with and will probably feel that Smith has now been away from the captaincy for the minimum they can get away with

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2021, 04:49:45 PM »

He should never captain any side at any format for me sends the complete wrong Message in either international or franchise cricket.

Fine that he plays again as a cricketer as anyone can make a mistake etc but somethings come with a life long consequence and this is one of them for me.

Bowlers 100% know or knew what was happening as the amount of time they spend on the ball and what they want players to do to look after it is just nonsense to suggest they knew nothing

six and out · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2021, 04:53:48 PM »

The simple fact is all the ACB will care about is results and especially after getting beaten in their own backyard by India.

So who is best to captain Australia to get on field results, well definitely not Tim Paine! Maybe Pat Cummins but bowlers very rarely make the best captains. So you are left with the obvious answer.... Smith.

This by no means me saying I think he should be able to though!

InternalTraining · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2021, 05:13:01 PM »

I don't think that Smith as a captain could've prevented that loss to India; he is showing poor form by intimating that he'd accept captaincy when there is already a captain, Tim Paine.

I like Tim Paine. He took reigns of a broken side and helped mend it. He should be treated with respect.

brokenbat · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2021, 05:35:42 PM »

To be fair, this was in response to a very specific question. He�s not going around proactively looking for the job.

edge · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2021, 05:38:49 PM »

Quote from: brokenbat on March 31, 2021, 05:35:42 PM

To be fair, this was in response to a very specific question. He�s not going around proactively looking for the job.

So deadbat the question? Massively poor form to just go after it, but then not surprising from Smith.

brokenbat · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2021, 05:43:47 PM »

Lots of Holier than Thou chat going around - England and India would do the exact same with their marquee players.

mo_town · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2021, 05:49:08 PM »

He committed a crime and did the time...if he can be selected and play for the national side, I dont understand why cant he be chosen to lead them again.

Manormanic · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2021, 06:23:48 PM »

Quote from: SD on March 31, 2021, 04:32:12 PM

Bancroft was thrown under the bus to save the bowling unit. No question the bowlers knew exactly what was going on and had been doing this before the tour of South Africa. Cricket Australia took damage limitation measures to contain the fall pout and were pretty successful in both protecting the results from earlier games and protecting other members of the team from also getting bans.

I fully expect Smith to return as captain. Cricket Australia did the absolute minimum they thought they could get away with and will probably feel that Smith has now been away from the captaincy for the minimum they can get away with

The thing is, the issue for me is not really about the crime itself - as disgusting and blatant a piece of cheating as it was, we all know that other teams have done things that may not be as bad but equally are not a million miles away in the past.

The real issues are:
1. The team culture that allowed them to throw Bancroft under the bus. In any other walk of life we'd call it bullying.
2. The horrendous sooking when he returned home in disgrace. I'm sorry, that was beyond pathetic.

Personally, I'd have liked him banned for life. But in any event, such an appalling human being should be allowed nowhere near the captaincy of a test side

Jimbo · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2021, 06:27:30 PM »

"Appalling human being" is a bit much, he cheated to try and win a game, he wasn't even match fixing for profit let alone doing something worth of being labelled an awful human being...

SD · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2021, 06:30:32 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on March 31, 2021, 06:23:48 PM

The thing is, the issue for me is not really about the crime itself - as disgusting and blatant a piece of cheating as it was, we all know that other teams have done things that may not be as bad but equally are not a million miles away in the past.

The real issues are:
1. The team culture that allowed them to throw Bancroft under the bus. In any other walk of life we'd call it bullying.
2. The horrendous sooking when he returned home in disgrace. I'm sorry, that was beyond pathetic.

Personally, I'd have liked him banned for life. But in any event, such an appalling human being should be allowed nowhere near the captaincy of a test side

My comment was really a reflection of my view that he will captain again rather than a judgement as to whether he should.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2021, 07:16:39 PM »

Quote from: brokenbat on March 31, 2021, 05:43:47 PM

Lots of Holier than Thou chat going around - England and India would do the exact same with their marquee players.

Respectfully disagree.

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