Topic: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further... (Read 27451 times)

InternalTraining · « **Reply #15 on:** April 13, 2021, 01:00:54 PM »

Quote from: alexhilly1492 on April 13, 2021, 12:37:43 PM

That's all fine except it's not the right direction.... In trying to make it more acceptable it's in danger of alienating the current fan base!

Why would it alienate the "current fan base"?

InternalTraining · « **Reply #16 on:** April 13, 2021, 01:04:36 PM »

Quote from: Colesy on April 13, 2021, 12:41:07 PM

Changing the fundamentals just to cater to people who don�t know the sport doesn�t necessarily make it more appealing. If you want to play the sport, you learn the sport, the terminology and the rules. You don�t need it made more simple just to include people.

If you start changing wickets to �outs� where do you stop as it�s a pretty simple concept to grasp.

First there was officially Test cricket - 5 day and 3 day (yes kids, there was such a thing as a 3-day Test

) . Then came ODI. Then came T-20I.

Your argument just doesn't hold water. Game has evolved and will continue to evolve.

Change is good. Embrace it.

SLA · « **Reply #17 on:** April 13, 2021, 01:06:44 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on April 13, 2021, 12:19:58 PM

Lot of non-cricketers get confused by "wickets". The playing area is the pitch. Wickets are stumps. So, it makes sense to call "outs" outs and it removes the confusing bit.

Some of the comments here do reflect a certain elitism cricketers have about the sport. If you really want to make it popular, you'd simplify the terminology which is what ECB is doing. Some of us just refuse to acknowledge that cricket is NOT an easy sport to get into (unless you are born around people who play it) or even stay into (gear woes, bats are schit!).

Make the terminology clean, make bats easy to ping without extensive preparation, cheaper and better safety gear are some of the things that'd help invite and keep new cricketers.

Kudos to ECB for moving in the right direction.

Of all the things that newbies get confused about that you might consider changing (fielding position names, names of different shots, the details of the lbw law, duckworth Lewis, why professionals can't play though a bit of drizzle etc), this isn't one of them.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #18 on:** April 13, 2021, 01:10:34 PM »

^ It is possible they are afraid of the backlash and want to start small. I don't fault them for their approach. Better late than never, I say.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #19 on:** April 13, 2021, 01:25:29 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on April 13, 2021, 12:57:26 PM

Not unusual to hear football commentary teams throwing around terms like "false nine", doesn't seem to harm the popularity of football.

A what? Please dumb it down for me, you elitist.

Colesy · « **Reply #20 on:** April 13, 2021, 01:42:24 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on April 13, 2021, 01:04:36 PM

First there was officially Test cricket - 5 day and 3 day (yes kids, there was such a thing as a 3-day Test ) . Then came ODI. Then came T-20I.

Your argument just doesn't hold water. Game has evolved and will continue to evolve.

Change is good. Embrace it.

I�m not sure if you�re on the wind up or not.

Yes the game evolves, the formats have evolved. I don�t see how getting newbies to call something outs instead of wickets will encourage participation and interest.

SLA · « **Reply #21 on:** April 13, 2021, 01:57:06 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on April 13, 2021, 01:10:34 PM

^ It is possible they are afraid of the backlash and want to start small. I don't fault them for their approach. Better late than never, I say.

Genuinely never met a newbie who was confused by the very basic and fundamental concepts of runs, wickets and overs. Those are the 3 easiest and best known bits of the game to understand and the least in need of simplification. If anything this will confuse people more.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2021, 01:59:02 PM »

Quote from: Colesy on April 13, 2021, 01:42:24 PM

I�m not sure if you�re on the wind up or not.

Yes the game evolves, the formats have evolved. I don�t see how getting newbies to call something outs instead of wickets will encourage participation and interest.

^ "Out" means something and a non-cricketer can correlate to a deficit of some sort. "Wicket"? 61% of the world population wouldn't know what the hell is a wicket!

Seeing you guys in a tizzy over this further confirms my suspicions.

Cricket needs broad reforms to shed off the archaic nonsense and attract new fans. Athletically, and aesthetically, cricket is an amazing sport! I have shown WC , Test video clips to non-cricketers friends and they are in awe of the sport and athletic ability of the players. The moment you start discussing cricket rules and terms, crowd peels off.

We live in different bubbles. As things stand, cricket is not winning new fans and new markets. Do you want the sport to stagnate.

Good job ECB!

InternalTraining · « **Reply #23 on:** April 13, 2021, 01:59:49 PM »

Quote from: SLA on April 13, 2021, 01:57:06 PM

Genuinely never met a newbie who was confused by the very basic and fundamental concepts of runs, wickets and overs. Those are the 3 easiest and best known bits of the game to understand and the least in need of simplification. If anything this will confuse people more.

Because you are in a different bubble.

There are many, other, bubbles in this world.

beaver5 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 13, 2021, 02:20:27 PM »

They need to make batters call 'in' when they've completed their run, or they could be 'out'! Are they still called runs?

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 13, 2021, 02:33:30 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on April 13, 2021, 12:19:58 PM

Lot of non-cricketers get confused by "wickets". The playing area is the pitch. Wickets are stumps. So, it makes sense to call "outs" outs and it removes the confusing bit.

Some of the comments here do reflect a certain elitism cricketers have about the sport. If you really want to make it popular, you'd simplify the terminology which is what ECB is doing. Some of us just refuse to acknowledge that cricket is NOT an easy sport to get into (unless you are born around people who play it) or even stay into (gear woes, bats are schit!).

Make the terminology clean, make bats easy to ping without extensive preparation, cheaper and better safety gear are some of the things that'd help invite and keep new cricketers.

Kudos to ECB for moving in the right direction.

are you just trying to wind people up? Do you actually believe this will help?

Cricket as a game is fine. Life has changed from the day's people could give over regular Saturday AND/OR Sundays to sport. Added to that, team sports generally are in decline as we have 'evolved' our society to be more 'must go shopping' 'must go the pub' 'must go travelling'. No amount of format change or name changing will stop that trend. Only a society shift back towards less working hours, more working from home type stuff etc

It really can't be to actually benefit the game, as you'd just use the 2020 format and change a few things (say Wickets to out's if you really must insist it helps)...

Anyway, the 100 is here to stay and will be regarded as a success just like anything the ECB/SKY or media wish to profess is a success.. just look at how it tries to bull up the IPL in the UK.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 13, 2021, 02:35:27 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on April 13, 2021, 01:00:54 PM

Why would it alienate the "current fan base"?

Umm, you have seen the 99.9% negativity towards it right?? I mean.. quite literally just random people like yourself are very very very much the minority.. so who exactly IS going to support this?

I'd rather my 6yr old learn a different sport than play in a 100 game if I'm honest. Tennis/badminton and Hockey it is

InternalTraining · « **Reply #27 on:** April 13, 2021, 02:37:37 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on April 13, 2021, 02:33:30 PM

Only a society shift back towards less working hours, more working from home type stuff etc

There are sports that are doing just fine even with messed up attention spans of their respectively society. Think broader. Different bubbles.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #28 on:** April 13, 2021, 02:38:41 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on April 13, 2021, 02:35:27 PM

Umm, you have seen the 99.9% negativity towards it right??

12 angry CBF posters represent the majority of the cricket world? HAHAHA.AAAA

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #29 on:** April 13, 2021, 02:50:37 PM »

I wish people would stop calling the pitch 'the wicket'.

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