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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2021, 09:39:10 AM »

But has a pro side ever actually tried a bad club leg-spinner in a competitive match? They wouldn't, would they? He'd be a liability in the field, offer nothing with the bat, and annoy everyone in the dressing-room by constantly picking up bats and playing 'guess the weight' and complaining about the lack of cheese and pickle sanwiches and Battenburg cake.

First part of your comment, you do see the occasional batsman who "bowls a few leggies" turning his arm over, Dom Sibley is the first that comes to mind. His bowling averages tell their own story.

Second part of the comment, fair point 😂
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« Reply #91 on: April 16, 2021, 11:30:11 AM »

Talking of Sibley... why is he not batting?
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2021, 11:32:36 AM »

Sibley has a broken finger (as does Stokes)
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« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2021, 11:37:28 AM »

Sibley has a broken finger (as does Stokes)

Thanks. I knew about Stokes.
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« Reply #94 on: July 21, 2021, 08:10:11 PM »

Decent match. I think The Hundred will be great for ladies cricket. I don’t think it is needed in men’s cricket.
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« Reply #95 on: July 22, 2021, 07:17:45 AM »

Decent match. I think The Hundred will be great for ladies cricket. I don’t think it is needed in men’s cricket.

Absolutely...wasn't it the highest crowd for a womens match?  I think the umpires need to get a bit more used to it. Will be interested to sense vibe at the mens game as perhaps this is more the family friendly option for those who don't want 1000 hooters blown at you or groups of 100 lads shouting the words to sweet caroline all night whilst attempting to break the world record for pints drunk in 2 hours.
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« Reply #96 on: July 22, 2021, 08:20:06 AM »

Absolutely...wasn't it the highest crowd for a womens match?  I think the umpires need to get a bit more used to it. Will be interested to sense vibe at the mens game as perhaps this is more the family friendly option for those who don't want 1000 hooters blown at you or groups of 100 lads shouting the words to sweet caroline all night whilst attempting to break the world record for pints drunk in 2 hours.
Its still a game of cricket

I also think they need to do something other than sticking a notepad in the air after five balls, to notify everyone whether or not the bowler has elected to bowl another five - looks a bit of an afterthought.

It also seems as though the ECB has decided against calling wickets OUTS, unless Sky Sports defied them due to it being idiotic.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #97 on: July 22, 2021, 08:50:21 AM »

Nah they dropped the "outs" thing a while ago.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #98 on: July 22, 2021, 09:04:50 AM »

I thought it was really impressive and a great advert for the game as a whole and the womens game.

BUT I'm not sure any of the good things came from the change of playing format. A game of high quality T20 cricket with good players concentrated into 8 rather than 18 teams, properly promoted and event packaged and on free to air TV would have delivered the same success in my view.

As a 'traditional' fan I actually found the scoring system/TV graphics etc harder to follow than usual, but I'm not really qualified to opine on whether it would be easier for a new fan given I've spend 25 years mentally calculating in base 6! I was still trying to think in terms of runs per over required etc which is quite hard to do unless you are pretty agile with your mental arithmetic!
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« Reply #99 on: July 22, 2021, 09:31:38 AM »

I thought it was really impressive and a great advert for the game as a whole and the womens game.

BUT I'm not sure any of the good things came from the change of playing format. A game of high quality T20 cricket with good players concentrated into 8 rather than 18 teams, properly promoted and event packaged and on free to air TV would have delivered the same success in my view.

As a 'traditional' fan I actually found the scoring system/TV graphics etc harder to follow than usual, but I'm not really qualified to opine on whether it would be easier for a new fan given I've spend 25 years mentally calculating in base 6! I was still trying to think in terms of runs per over required etc which is quite hard to do unless you are pretty agile with your mental arithmetic!

Exactly this - we were trying to calculate the run rate back to overs or for when working out a par score. I agree on the T20 suggestion but its here to stay I suspect . Like I said will be interested to see how the mens game goes tonight and a shame that due to Covid we are not seeing all the overseas stars playing. Is it just me or do the helmets look better suited on a building site?
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #100 on: July 22, 2021, 12:04:11 PM »

I thought it was really impressive and a great advert for the game as a whole and the womens game.

BUT I'm not sure any of the good things came from the change of playing format. A game of high quality T20 cricket with good players concentrated into 8 rather than 18 teams, properly promoted and event packaged and on free to air TV would have delivered the same success in my view.

As a 'traditional' fan I actually found the scoring system/TV graphics etc harder to follow than usual, but I'm not really qualified to opine on whether it would be easier for a new fan given I've spend 25 years mentally calculating in base 6! I was still trying to think in terms of runs per over required etc which is quite hard to do unless you are pretty agile with your mental arithmetic!

Trying to make the existing T20 competition better would have been everyone’s preferred option I think, but the ECB are looking for a moneyspinner, and I feel they are aware that they have zero chance of catching up with the IPL or BBL, so are pinning their hopes on the new format surpassing T20 in terms of interest, exposure, and most importantly, money.

That said, the ECB had a head start on T20 too, and managed to **** it up, so there’s no guarantee that they won’t do the same with the latest versions of biff cricket.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #101 on: July 22, 2021, 03:56:49 PM »

Trying to make the existing T20 competition better would have been everyone’s preferred option I think, but the ECB are looking for a moneyspinner, and I feel they are aware that they have zero chance of catching up with the IPL or BBL, so are pinning their hopes on the new format surpassing T20 in terms of interest, exposure, and most importantly, money.

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That said, the ECB had a head start on T20 too, and managed to **** it up, so there’s no guarantee that they won’t do the same with the latest versions of biff cricket.

Well, they have a head start this time around, and they must've learned something from their past mistakes.

Said it before, and I say it again: It's a great idea!
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #102 on: July 22, 2021, 06:19:49 PM »

This crowd looks like your bog standard group of young males who go to T20 on a Friday...
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #103 on: July 22, 2021, 08:25:06 PM »

Hate to put a downer on a new format and not embrace the thing but I think all the 100 will do is kill 2020

The formats are too similar and fans will only pay so much for tickets. I, like some others on here, would of liked to expand 2020 if that's what cricket needs.

The set up financially of the IPL is totally different than we have here, if the ECB want it to rival that, they will have to bankroll it.

A plus is its on BBC, any cricket behind a paywall destroys it's grass roots, so from that point of view-good
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #104 on: July 23, 2021, 02:36:02 AM »

Problem with t-20 is that it is boring as hell! I can't watch it. If it goes away, I won't miss it.
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