Topic: Eng Vs New Zealand test matches (Read 38163 times)

mo_town · « **Reply #165 on:** June 09, 2021, 11:15:18 AM »

This whole Robinson suspension thing is a disaster in my opinion. How can you hold someone accountable for something they did years ago as a teenager. But I do understand it from the board's point of view too. In today's world of snowflakes, one is expected to respond strongly to anything that could be deemed offensive. Also, there should be distinction between poor humor and outright racist behavior. To me, Robinson's tweet felt more like the former.

Warneymonster · « **Reply #166 on:** June 09, 2021, 11:30:11 AM »

i havent seen much on the morgan & Buttler tweets but if the Anderson one was just a bad joke surely?

All of it benefits Robinson as they cant ban everyone for 'banter' no matter how bad or over the line it was.

Social media is a dangerous place for anyone in the public eye, dont they have separate accounts for personal and public?

I would hate to look back at the things i said and posted when i was younger, but there has to be a limit on how far back someone can be punished for doesnt there?

Jimbo · « **Reply #167 on:** June 09, 2021, 11:59:39 AM »

Some would describe Robinson's comment about Muslims as a bad joke, where exactly do we draw the line?

If Anderson's bad joke is okay, are we saying Islamaphobia is bad (it is, of course) but homophobia is okay?

Think the ECB have dug themselves a hole with the Robinson suspension/investigation. Three options probably - suspend everyone who has sent dubious tweets pending investigation and seriously weaken their selection pool, only suspend Robinson which looks like scapegoating or rescind the suspension which makes them look soft on racism/sexism.

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #168 on:** June 09, 2021, 12:58:20 PM »

Williamson ruled out with his elbow problem. Shame as he�s one of my favourites. Hopefully he�s fit for the WTC final.

Neon Cricket · « **Reply #169 on:** June 09, 2021, 01:16:05 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on June 09, 2021, 11:59:39 AM

Think the ECB have dug themselves a hole with the Robinson suspension/investigation. Three options probably - suspend everyone who has sent dubious tweets pending investigation and seriously weaken their selection pool, only suspend Robinson which looks like scapegoating or rescind the suspension which makes them look soft on racism/sexism.

Exactly this, they can't have one rule for Robinson and one rule for the rest now. Haven't a clue how they're going to deal with this now.

Warneymonster · « **Reply #170 on:** June 09, 2021, 01:40:44 PM »

can see Robinson being made a scapegoat, and the other reminded of their 'responsibilities'

always seems the be the ECB way

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #171 on:** June 09, 2021, 02:09:34 PM »

I blame Ed Smith.

ppccopener · « **Reply #172 on:** June 09, 2021, 02:27:26 PM »

Quote from: Warneymonster on June 09, 2021, 01:40:44 PM

can see Robinson being made a scapegoat, and the other reminded of their 'responsibilities'

always seems the be the ECB way

I wouldn�t rule anything out the ECB in recent years has proved its own incompetence and further away from the public�s views than ever.

But that the one thing the will not be able to do I think, what goes for Robinson must go for the rest. The unnamed player in this mess I have heard was 15 years old at the time.

The important message of equality,tolerance and understand of different faiths,beliefs and cultures can only be made better by education and understanding.

The ECB have succeed in lashing up the message in grand style.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #173 on:** June 09, 2021, 05:29:41 PM »

Apparently Anderson�s tweet was in regard to Stuart Broad�s haircut from about 10 years ago. He said Broad looked like a 15 year old lesbian.

I find that funny. If people are genuinely outraged by such a comment then the world is doomed.

Jimbo · « **Reply #174 on:** June 09, 2021, 05:53:21 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on June 09, 2021, 05:29:41 PM

Apparently Anderson�s tweet was in regard to Stuart Broad�s haircut from about 10 years ago. He said Broad looked like a 15 year old lesbian.

I find that funny. If people are genuinely outraged by such a comment then the world is doomed.

You find it funny but maybe consider how funny it would be if you had a child who was tormented everyday about their sexuality. Suddenly quite a bit less funny.

No, it's not the end of the world and I don't believe for a second that Anderson is a committed homophobe but if we agree it's unacceptable to make racial 'jokes' then we shouldn't condone 'jokes' rooted in other biases either.

In the same vein as Robinson, education and some time and work helping to raise awareness among young people about the impact that being careless with a 'joke' can have on other people would be appropriate.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #175 on:** June 09, 2021, 06:55:37 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on June 09, 2021, 05:53:21 PM

You find it funny but maybe consider how funny it would be if you had a child who was tormented everyday about their sexuality. Suddenly quite a bit less funny.

No, it's not the end of the world and I don't believe for a second that Anderson is a committed homophobe but if we agree it's unacceptable to make racial 'jokes' then we shouldn't condone 'jokes' rooted in other biases either.

In the same vein as Robinson, education and some time and work helping to raise awareness among young people about the impact that being careless with a 'joke' can have on other people would be appropriate.

I can honestly say that it wouldn�t bother me in the slightest. Jokes come in all shapes and sizes, and what might be funny to some, will be outrageous to some Twitter warrior snowflake somewhere. My mother died of cancer three years ago. Do I get offended by jokes about cancer? No I don�t. Sometimes you need to make light of some of the more terrible things this world throws at you. If you get rid of all jokes that might even slightly offend what will you be left with? Knock knock jokes?

Jimbo · « **Reply #176 on:** June 09, 2021, 08:56:05 PM »

I'm glad it doesn't bother you but that doesn't mean we should crack jokes at people's expense or lean on lazy stereotypes and pass it off as humour.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #177 on:** June 09, 2021, 10:33:35 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on June 09, 2021, 06:55:37 PM

I can honestly say that it wouldn�t bother me in the slightest. Jokes come in all shapes and sizes, and what might be funny to some, will be outrageous to some Twitter warrior snowflake somewhere. My mother died of cancer three years ago. Do I get offended by jokes about cancer? No I don�t. Sometimes you need to make light of some of the more terrible things this world throws at you. If you get rid of all jokes that might even slightly offend what will you be left with? Knock knock jokes?

Just because it doesn�t bother you doesn�t make it ok. Irrespective of the subject. If there is the potential for someone to be offended then simply don�t say it .

Tom · « **Reply #178 on:** June 09, 2021, 11:33:35 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on June 09, 2021, 06:55:37 PM

I can honestly say that it wouldn�t bother me in the slightest. Jokes come in all shapes and sizes, and what might be funny to some, will be outrageous to some Twitter warrior snowflake somewhere. My mother died of cancer three years ago. Do I get offended by jokes about cancer? No I don�t. Sometimes you need to make light of some of the more terrible things this world throws at you. If you get rid of all jokes that might even slightly offend what will you be left with? Knock knock jokes?

I think if you were the butt of a joke and discriminated against on a daily basis, simply being for who you are, it might get a little tiresome.

FattusCattus · « **Reply #179 on:** June 10, 2021, 08:32:53 AM »

Anyway, back to the cricket and enough of the undeducated cricketers and outraged 'wokeflakes'.

Leach to play?
Broad to be rested?
Stone or Wood?

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