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SouthpawMark

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The England Ladies test match Vs India
« on: June 16, 2021, 11:26:24 AM »
What are the thoughts on the issue regarding it being played on a lightly used pitch? Personally, I don’t see the issue on it being played on a pitch that has seen 39 overs play. I know the BBC in particular are trying to force ladies sport down everyone’s throat at every opportunity for fear of appearing sexist, but the fact that there are probably less than 100 people watching in person, and likely not that many more on Sky, indicates that people simply aren’t that interested.
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2021, 11:52:29 AM »
Women's sport has been systematically undersupported and undermined more or less since the advent of professional sport, is a couple of tests a year really 'ramming it down our throats'?

I think it's pretty poor from the ECB not to be able to put together a quality, new pitch for a flagship game for women's cricket in England. You'd expect a new pitch for a regional club cup final, I think it's pretty reasonable to expect one for the extremely rare event of a women's test match in England.
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2021, 11:53:33 AM »
So you’ve taken the time out of your day to post on a cricket forum about how much you don’t care about women’s cricket?
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2021, 12:00:47 PM »
On a more positive note, really enjoying Issy Westbury's commentary on TMS. Have heard her on a few podcasts lately and been very impressed with her work.
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2021, 01:20:01 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on June 16, 2021, 11:52:29 AM
Women's sport has been systematically undersupported and undermined more or less since the advent of professional sport, is a couple of tests a year really 'ramming it down our throats'?

I think it's pretty poor from the ECB not to be able to put together a quality, new pitch for a flagship game for women's cricket in England. You'd expect a new pitch for a regional club cup final, I think it's pretty reasonable to expect one for the extremely rare event of a women's test match in England.

Completely agree with this
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2021, 01:48:10 PM »
Quote from: SouthpawMark on June 16, 2021, 11:26:24 AM
What are the thoughts on the issue regarding it being played on a lightly used pitch? Personally, I don’t see the issue on it being played on a pitch that has seen 39 overs play. I know the BBC in particular are trying to force ladies sport down everyone’s throat at every opportunity for fear of appearing sexist, but the fact that there are probably less than 100 people watching in person, and likely not that many more on Sky, indicates that people simply aren’t that interested.
Good god. Women's sport becomes popular when more people see it. Tennis and Athletics, for example, have a strong following and that happened because their major events share the spotlight between men and women. Look at the rise in popularity of women's football to show that broadcasting more women's sport is a good thing. Plus, what other live sport does the BBC have outside of tournament football and Wimbledon. They're only 'ramming it down your throat' as they have no other major live sport.
And it's not ramming it down your throat, you have the choice of watching countless other things.
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2021, 01:57:49 PM »
Would add, anyone with an interest in the continued success of cricket at grassroots level should be over the moon about increased visibility for women's cricket.

My club has started running junior girls sessions over the past year and a bit. Growth in the number of kids coming down to these has been enormous, the kids love their cricket and hopefully long term it will help us to establish a womens team. Initiatives like this will only make clubs stronger and grow the game we all love.
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2021, 03:07:16 PM »
Spencer has the largest amount of junior in a club! Girls and boys. And have a good young ladies team including a few experienced Surrey players.
Once they were with us in the nets.
I wanted to see how she plays my bowling and got the chance to bowl to that Surrey player. I must say she's a good batter! In a match scenario I'd say it wouldn't be an easy wicket!
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2021, 04:02:22 PM »
I think it is a very poor show to provide a used pitch for a rest match.  There is absolutely no question that the mens team would get this, so it shouldn't happen for the women's team either.  Hugely disrespectful and th ECB appears to have recognised this and committed to ensuring that it won't happen again
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2021, 04:03:58 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on June 16, 2021, 01:57:49 PM
Would add, anyone with an interest in the continued success of cricket at grassroots level should be over the moon about increased visibility for women's cricket.

My club has started running junior girls sessions over the past year and a bit. Growth in the number of kids coming down to these has been enormous, the kids love their cricket and hopefully long term it will help us to establish a womens team. Initiatives like this will only make clubs stronger and grow the game we all love.

Absolutely, greater exposure for the women's game can only be a good thing for the health of the game as a whole. 
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2021, 05:54:58 PM »
I don't particularly like watching women's cricket, but I'm not the target audience it's designed for. Once the ECB deceide on a priority the funds and grants to clubs tend to follow suit.

Past few years women's cricket has been seen as a priority and there is still a lot of catching up to do with the men's game.

Far  as the pitch goes no one has said this is a mistake so presumably the ECB thought this was acceptable, which it isn't, they should be on a brand new pitch.

Just a note on the coverage on TV, not having  SKY I'm tuning in on BBC test match special with live commentary for the men's game and text scores on the 2020 games.

There's not as much coverage for the women's game as there are less games played, if anything the tv/radio coverage has some catching up to do for the women.
That's my view anyway  :)
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2021, 07:01:53 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on June 16, 2021, 12:00:47 PM
On a more positive note, really enjoying Issy Westbury's commentary on TMS. Have heard her on a few podcasts lately and been very impressed with her work.

very much agree - she is excellent - i would like TMS to have her on all the time - they can then send Dan Norcross to Coventry  :D
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2021, 02:07:51 AM »
I would have thought that the ideal pitch for a T20 Blast game, would be very different to the ideal pitch for a 5 day test.
I'm sure the ground staff did their best, but how do you go about turning (what I'm guessing was) a dead flat batting track into something that gives the bowlers an even chance?

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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2021, 03:10:28 PM »
Quote from: More Glue Than Wood on June 16, 2021, 07:01:53 PM
very much agree - she is excellent - i would like TMS to have her on all the time - they can then send Dan Norcross to Coventry  :D


Interesting. I prefer Hartley and Isha as I find Westbury annoying. Each to their own I suppose, hence why everyone has people they like and dislike
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Re: The England Ladies test match Vs India
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2021, 03:50:49 PM »
Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on June 17, 2021, 03:10:28 PM

Interesting. I prefer Hartley and Isha as I find Westbury annoying. Each to their own I suppose, hence why everyone has people they like and dislike

They're both excellent too, Hartley particularly is a nice change from the more reserved BBC commentators. It might just be that I love Westbury's accent 😅
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