Topic: Coaching younger players (Read 12094 times)

AJ2014 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2021, 04:09:08 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on June 23, 2021, 02:31:00 PM

You have over 1000 juniors and they're not regularly making it into your Saturday league teams? We've just got over 100 for the first time this year and last weekend we had 6 current/former junior players in the 1st team, plus more playing in the 2s and 3s. Think you've got a bit more going wrong than just kids wanting to do something else with their Saturdays...

Might be that they're not as much talented as, might be that they're being over coached, even their parents are coaching them, might be that the coaches are not capable, because anyone can be a coach, only needs to get diplomas.

Jimbo · « **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2021, 07:09:38 PM »

Quote from: AJ2014 on June 23, 2021, 04:09:08 PM

Might be that they're not as much talented as, might be that they're being over coached, even their parents are coaching them, might be that the coaches are not capable, because anyone can be a coach, only needs to get diplomas.

With 1500 juniors I think it's a stretch to claim that lack of talent, overcoaching, parental interference or poor coaches can be to blame for none of them stepping up to first or second team cricket. Failure on that scale to get young players through the system sounds like a cultural failing of the club and the youth system.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 23, 2021, 07:21:25 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on June 23, 2021, 07:09:38 PM

With 1500 juniors I think it's a stretch to claim that lack of talent, overcoaching, parental interference or poor coaches can be to blame for none of them stepping up to first or second team cricket. Failure on that scale to get young players through the system sounds like a cultural failing of the club and the youth system.

Yes my man, this is what that guy told the club!
And that makes huge part of their income!

The Palmist · « **Reply #18 on:** June 27, 2021, 04:46:45 PM »

I am working with U9s this year and for the love of God can't get some of them to bowl straight, any tips or videos will be most appreciated.

SLA · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2021, 06:29:45 PM »

No amount of coaching in the world will ever make up for kids not being able to regularly watch cricket on fta tv.

I received zero coaching when I was a kid, I learnt by watching test matches and playing games with my mates. I still scored my first competitive adult 50 when I was 14.

How many *totally uncoached* kids today do that?

I coach kids today and without any more natural ability or time being coached, the 10% whose parents have sky sports are just SO much better than the ones who don't.

LockieEP · « **Reply #20 on:** June 28, 2021, 06:04:07 AM »

In addition to the helpful comments so far I suggest encouraging as many of them as possible to come down for a while on club match days to watch the seniors....not to learn bad habits

but again watch and understand the game more. Plus if you have nets or spare space they can play games like one hand one bounce etc. for hours. It all helps.

The Palmist · « **Reply #21 on:** June 28, 2021, 07:53:02 AM »

Agree on watching, I am going to find YouTube highlights and send to parents.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 28, 2021, 08:31:16 AM »

Quote from: Nmcgee on June 28, 2021, 08:06:33 AM

We need to teach them to score runs, not be a good net batter. Use appropriate drills to practice turning the strike over with a single. Focus on backing up and running between wickets. Teach hitting zones or gaps in field. Mix it up with targeting leg-side zones and offside bowling, hitting zones while freezing their feet to make a late adjustment with the hands, etc. Do you coach hitting over the top? Can they do it consistently?

Agree with all!

AJ2014 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 28, 2021, 09:11:03 AM »

Watching tele doesn't make a better cricketer.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 28, 2021, 09:55:31 AM »

Quote from: AJ2014 on June 28, 2021, 09:11:03 AM

Watching tele doesn't make a better cricketer.

well it can. You can learn a hell of a lot by watching pro's play . Obviously expecting to be able to consistently perform the hitting side of things at amateur level is absurd as we just aren't good enough and expecting team to play like ea pro team is also absurd as people aren't going to be happy wandering in and swinging from the hip and paying �� for that but still.. you can learn a lot

As always, mix it in with skills and drills but if you over drill.. you create a robot and eventually.. they get bored of nets/drills and drift away

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FUN... make amateur cricket fun to play and shock horror.. people will actually want to play it in numbers. Make it too 'professional' with drills, long warm ups etc etc.. shock horror.. people walk away

AJ2014 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2021, 10:07:04 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on June 28, 2021, 09:55:31 AM

well it can. You can learn a hell of a lot by watching pro's play . Obviously expecting to be able to consistently perform the hitting side of things at amateur level is absurd as we just aren't good enough and expecting team to play like ea pro team is also absurd as people aren't going to be happy wandering in and swinging from the hip and paying �� for that but still.. you can learn a lot

As always, mix it in with skills and drills but if you over drill.. you create a robot and eventually.. they get bored of nets/drills and drift away

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FUN... make amateur cricket fun to play and shock horror.. people will actually want to play it in numbers. Make it too 'professional' with drills, long warm ups etc etc.. shock horror.. people walk away

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Butterfingerz · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2021, 10:08:48 AM »

Quote from: Nmcgee on June 28, 2021, 08:06:33 AM

We need to teach them to score runs, not be a good net batter. Use appropriate drills to practice turning the strike over with a single. Focus on backing up and running between wickets. Teach hitting zones or gaps in field. Mix it up with targeting leg-side zones and offside bowling, hitting zones while freezing their feet to make a late adjustment with the hands, etc. Do you coach hitting over the top? Can they do it consistently?

I get what you're saying and agree with most however adjusting the hands and hitting over the top at 9 years old? NO! A child of this age needs the confidence of scoring runs not getting out every over ball. As kids develop and they all maturate at different times which you need to take on board then you can coach this skill however even then some are not able to do this or don't have the physical strength.

The best thing to do is to enhance the natural ability and refine slightly when required.

Butterfingerz · « **Reply #27 on:** June 28, 2021, 10:17:25 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on June 28, 2021, 09:55:31 AM

well it can. You can learn a hell of a lot by watching pro's play . Obviously expecting to be able to consistently perform the hitting side of things at amateur level is absurd as we just aren't good enough and expecting team to play like ea pro team is also absurd as people aren't going to be happy wandering in and swinging from the hip and paying �� for that but still.. you can learn a lot

As always, mix it in with skills and drills but if you over drill.. you create a robot and eventually.. they get bored of nets/drills and drift away

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FUN... make amateur cricket fun to play and shock horror.. people will actually want to play it in numbers. Make it too 'professional' with drills, long warm ups etc etc.. shock horror.. people walk away

Lets get this right, when children see and advert for a new computer game, they want it equally when they see an exciting advert for playing sports it will perk the ears of those who are interested too. Being able to watch the game being played will enhance their knowledge and even listening to the commentary at time will teach them or at least prompt a question or too. The facts are that with the demise of FTA TV in the UK the participation numbers have dropped massively whilst football which is also in hardly ever on FTA TV has grown exponentially. So is this really the only answer?

I coach a lot of kids, in-fact I have a business created just for this coaching children aged 2-8. The drills we do are fun and have an element of competition which although is not totally important at this age you do see those with a little more about them. the kids leave with a smile on their face already looking forward to next week, drill are important but need to be done in the right way.

SLA · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2021, 10:51:54 AM »

Quote from: Butterfingerz on June 28, 2021, 10:17:25 AM

Lets get this right, when children see and advert for a new computer game, they want it equally when they see an exciting advert for playing sports it will perk the ears of those who are interested too. Being able to watch the game being played will enhance their knowledge and even listening to the commentary at time will teach them or at least prompt a question or too. The facts are that with the demise of FTA TV in the UK the participation numbers have dropped massively whilst football which is also in hardly ever on FTA TV has grown exponentially. So is this really the only answer?

I coach a lot of kids, in-fact I have a business created just for this coaching children aged 2-8. The drills we do are fun and have an element of competition which although is not totally important at this age you do see those with a little more about them. the kids leave with a smile on their face already looking forward to next week, drill are important but need to be done in the right way.

Mate, football is always on fta tv. There are like 3 games a day on at the moment. You can't escape from it.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 28, 2021, 11:26:33 AM »

Quote from: SLA on June 28, 2021, 10:51:54 AM

Mate, football is always on fta tv. There are like 3 games a day on at the moment. You can't escape from it.

plus it's an easy game for all schools , clubs and break/lunch times to play. Football isn't loved it's just super super easy to provide facilities for. Cricket.. not so much sadly

apart from that.. Butters is right, Participation won't come back until cricket is FTA.. streaming is doing wonders but the benefit won't be seen for years and needs to reach the younger people.

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