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Re: England v India series
« Reply #810 on: September 10, 2021, 09:00:03 AM »

If all players tested negative as reported and still refused to play to protect the IPL (or were directed to do so by the BCCI) it is a disgrace and India should forfeit the series not just the test.

No way I am buying tickets for the Eng Ind T20 at Old Trafford next year.
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« Reply #811 on: September 10, 2021, 09:13:14 AM »

If all players tested negative as reported and still refused to play to protect the IPL (or were directed to do so by the BCCI) it is a disgrace and India should forfeit the series not just the test.

No way I am buying tickets for the Eng Ind T20 at Old Trafford next year.

Yes negative tests for all players is being reported.
The end of the test series and the start of the IPL looks to have been the deciding factor.

It’s a shame for us fans but money talks. International cricket is a business.
We might not like it buts it’s true.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #812 on: September 10, 2021, 09:15:53 AM »

surely inability to field a team is an instant forfeit? if they cannot rearrange it for 2 days later when all the test results are back
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« Reply #813 on: September 10, 2021, 09:18:37 AM »

I think they will end up with a cancelled test, the could be a fight about it but 2-1 will stand.

It’s a damn shame we don’t have the chance to draw
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #814 on: September 10, 2021, 09:20:08 AM »

Yes negative tests for all players is being reported.
The end of the test series and the start of the IPL looks to have been the deciding factor.

It’s a shame for us fans but money talks. International cricket is a business.
We might not like it buts it’s true.

I agree it is a business and I understand that - this to me feels like a watershed moment though for the international game/test cricket.

Here we (appear to) have explicit confirmation that franchise cricket/the IPL is now more important to the world game (or at least the most important governing body in the world game) than the deciding test of a test series between two 'big 3' nations.

It has been unsaid/rumbling under the surface for a while - but this is open acknowledgement.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #815 on: September 10, 2021, 09:23:09 AM »

I think they will end up with a cancelled test, the could be a fight about it but 2-1 will stand.

It’s a damn shame we don’t have the chance to draw

sad end to a really good series, i dont think indian can claim a series win though if they have effectively refused to play the final test because of the ipl
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #816 on: September 10, 2021, 09:28:02 AM »

I agree it is a business and I understand that - this to me feels like a watershed moment though for the international game/test cricket.

Here we (appear to) have explicit confirmation that franchise cricket/the IPL is now more important to the world game (or at least the most important governing body in the world game) than the deciding test of a test series between two 'big 3' nations.

It has been unsaid/rumbling under the surface for a while - but this is open acknowledgement.

Yes totally agree with you. It’s sad I think but that is the reality.
If it’s true the medical guy for India tested positive today you would think England would cover that and use our guy.
If it meant the test went ahead.

But the risk to the IPL was too great.
I hope we get back to test cricket being important but for those of us that love that format first it’s a sad day.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #817 on: September 10, 2021, 09:41:47 AM »

This was of course the test that India sought at the start of the year to have moved to an earlier date

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/05/25/england-resist-request-rearrange-test-series-india-accommodate/
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #818 on: September 10, 2021, 09:45:15 AM »

Looks like ECB/BCCI will try to play the fifth Test next summer
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« Reply #819 on: September 10, 2021, 09:53:50 AM »

Looks like ECB/BCCI will try to play the fifth Test next summer

will also give old trafford a test next summer as they do not have one - so may be a decent solution all round
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #820 on: September 10, 2021, 10:00:51 AM »

its a tough situation for the indian team, IPL and money are clearly the deciding factor here as the test was deemed safe and they still have refused to play.

I didnt realise they had already asked to move the dates of this test so they could play IPL so less sympathetic now

I like the idea of a one off test next year but i would still call this a forfeit with regards to WTC points because they could actually get a side out but have chosen not to. if they had an outbreak in the playing staff then it would be a different situation.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #821 on: September 10, 2021, 10:18:47 AM »

Pretty poor comments on here about India's decision. I am sure if it was the other way around, people would have been more sympathetic and supportive of the ECB's call to forfeit/cancel the test.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #822 on: September 10, 2021, 10:29:42 AM »

Not really, as England would have fielded a B Team like they have already done in the ODI series.

If you can't get a Team together, then you loose the match. Simple.
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« Reply #823 on: September 10, 2021, 10:31:44 AM »

It all comes down to the idiocy and greed of the BCCI. They don’t want to risk the cash cow that is the IPL, and they didn’t consider the implications of going from no spectators to 60k+ unmasked spectators during the last England tour to India. Money talks, and it absolutely stinks. Could you imagine the fallout if England refused to play a match in India?
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #824 on: September 10, 2021, 10:31:56 AM »

Apparently Harrison is now saying 'mental fatigue' has played a part. I mean, fair enough, but is that a valid reason for cancellation under the ICC/WTC rules?

Telegraph also reporting that the players signed a letter to the BCCI late last night refusing to play, make of that what you will...
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