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Re: England v India series
« Reply #825 on: September 10, 2021, 10:33:27 AM »

I think they will end up with a cancelled test, the could be a fight about it but 2-1 will stand.

It’s a damn shame we don’t have the chance to draw

It is a forfeit. The series has been drawn.
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« Reply #826 on: September 10, 2021, 12:49:49 PM »

Pretty poor comments on here about India's decision. I am sure if it was the other way around, people would have been more sympathetic and supportive of the ECB's call to forfeit/cancel the test.

ok, we need to wait for all the facts but appears that Indian players who all tested negative didnt want to risk missing the IPL. So hard for those spectators who have taken time off, travelled plus businesses now affected its not surprising there is negative feelings on this. No ones wins but BCCI flagged concerns early on about timing issues with rearranged IPL.

As a purist its sad to see test cricket cancelled for franchise .

Like I said maybe more facts will come out and players have symptoms etc.
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« Reply #827 on: September 10, 2021, 12:52:18 PM »

It is a forfeit. The series has been drawn.

I agree with you but the ICC and BCCI are the same corrupt organisation now. It will at best be a rearranged game next year or at worst they will say it is classed the same as a washed out game.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #828 on: September 10, 2021, 01:05:04 PM »

i would guess there are financial ramifications and there will be negotiations ongoing. have seen figures ranging from 30m upto 50m losses from broadcasting and ticket sales so the Ecb will likely being desperate to recoup as much of that as possible.

How do Lancs and ECB split the ticket revenue? LCCC will lose all of the food and drink sales for the next few days which is huge. Do the ECB or LCCC seem like organisations that will have insured against this type of event?
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« Reply #829 on: September 10, 2021, 01:18:59 PM »

I am still trying to figure out how Shastri ended up with Covid.  Aren't the teams supposed to be in isolation and not interact with the general public?

CricInfo says test is back on after the Thursday's 2nd Covid results came back negative - https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/eng-vs-ind-5th-test-2021-manchester-test-to-go-ahead-as-entire-india-squad-tests-negative-1277117
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #830 on: September 10, 2021, 01:35:53 PM »

I am still trying to figure out how Shastri ended up with Covid.  Aren't the teams supposed to be in isolation and not interact with the general public?

CricInfo says test is back on after the Thursday's 2nd Covid results came back negative - https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/eng-vs-ind-5th-test-2021-manchester-test-to-go-ahead-as-entire-india-squad-tests-negative-1277117

That story was posted yesterday and events have superceded that report.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #831 on: September 10, 2021, 01:42:09 PM »

that was strange.  i guess my browser picked up the old cache
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #832 on: September 10, 2021, 02:37:16 PM »

I am still trying to figure out how Shastri ended up with Covid.  Aren't the teams supposed to be in isolation and not interact with the general public?

CricInfo says test is back on after the Thursday's 2nd Covid results came back negative - https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/eng-vs-ind-5th-test-2021-manchester-test-to-go-ahead-as-entire-india-squad-tests-negative-1277117

There was no bio bubble/isolation it seems, just a letter in beginning of series from bcci to be careful/use judgement which doesn't clearly tell what to do/not to do. Still Sastry should have avoided the book event if he used his judgement.
Heard that cry baby Kohli was the one who chickened out and not willing to play. Initially bcci was open to idea of kohli "resting" if he wasn't comfortable but then knowing Kohli, he must have persuaded others to not play so he doesn't come across as bad (just my assumption based on way things played out). Sad state of affairs if that is the case.

Also read that the next year's replacement test will be a one off test if it happens, so wouldn't be a decider for this series.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #833 on: September 10, 2021, 02:48:39 PM »

news starting to come out of the england camp that they are fuming with the BCCI and prepared to take this as far as possible to force a forfeit and get compensation from them. Dont see it getting far with the ICC though unfortunately.

I dont blame the indian players for not wanting to miss out on a massive payday but this just demonstrates the lack of respect they have for any other team, i cant imagine Dhoni refusing to play because he didnt have enough physios in the setup
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #834 on: September 10, 2021, 02:53:29 PM »

And to think that Kohli publicly says test is most important format for him.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #835 on: September 10, 2021, 03:44:49 PM »

The bio bubbles have had to be a bit relaxed we all know that from the stress on the players during the home series last time round.
So the players have to be cared for as a priority-all basic stuff.

So to a certain extent you have to use your judgement.

Attending a book signing event where this all started is not using common sense.
In fact it’s brain dead stupid.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #836 on: September 10, 2021, 03:54:02 PM »

Attending a book signing event where this all started is not using common sense.
In fact it’s brain dead stupid.

What "book signing event"?
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #837 on: September 10, 2021, 03:58:29 PM »

What "book signing event"?

Google search returns several results. Even Kohli was in the event, and the physio returned positive test 4 days after initial group tested positive, so maybe that's why some players are scared.

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcricket/sports-news/bcci-reportedly-miffed-with-kohli-shastri-for-attending-crowded-book-launch-event-9953191.html
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #838 on: September 10, 2021, 04:02:48 PM »

Both Kohli-Sastry must have had brain fade to attend such an event. Can't imagine carelessness levels of even those in important positions.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #839 on: September 10, 2021, 04:04:45 PM »

There was no bio bubble/isolation it seems, just a letter in beginning of series from bcci to be careful/use judgement which doesn't clearly tell what to do/not to do. Still Sastry should have avoided the book event if he used his judgement.
Heard that cry baby Kohli was the one who chickened out and not willing to play. Initially bcci was open to idea of kohli "resting" if he wasn't comfortable but then knowing Kohli, he must have persuaded others to not play so he doesn't come across as bad (just my assumption based on way things played out). Sad state of affairs if that is the case.

Also read that the next year's replacement test will be a one off test if it happens, so wouldn't be a decider for this series.

Wow...you seem to have all the insider info. Amazing!!  :D

Did Kohli call you and informed you that he was chickening out?

Shame on all the people here who are bad mouthing BCCI and the Indian players. Just goes to show how insensitive people can be. Stuff happens. Shastri didnt catch the virus on purpose. In these times, the least people can do is be sensitive to such things.

There have been cases in the Indian camp and they dont want to play. Period. Deal with it!
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