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Re: England v India series
« Reply #855 on: September 10, 2021, 09:34:30 PM »


Does it make a difference?   India have won the series.   This feels like England fans searching for any small morsel of hope in this team suddenly playing another freak game and actually winning. India have played better excluding for one extraordinary knock by Root

Won?

If you can't field a Team to play a fixture, then that is a concession. So the true series result is a draw, which I'm also aware is a good outcome for the England Team and therefor retain the Pataudi Trophy.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #856 on: September 10, 2021, 09:40:36 PM »

Shows how desperate things have got for our test match side that some fans cling to the hope of a concession in order to draw a home series.
England really are bang average these days.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #857 on: September 10, 2021, 09:48:57 PM »

Worrying how subservient people are becoming to accept giving away results, without the opposition actually wining it.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #858 on: September 10, 2021, 10:04:09 PM »

If this pandemic stays with us much longer, expect either shorter tours or multi-team tours where different format squads would "bubble"/quarantine for individual format schedules.

I suspect those physios have spread Corona virus to team players and many are expected to test positive in next few days.

Shorter tours? Great NZ will have 0 test matches from now on.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #859 on: September 10, 2021, 10:19:47 PM »

Never said Kohli scared to play due to fear of losing. All fear is from covid/ipl revenues impact.
Think the IPL impact might be far fetched as well. Covid is genuinely scary and for teams in a bubble, getting it and passing it on is probably the factor. They lost revenues already last year postponing IPL cause of cases. Last thing they want is a repeat of the episode
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #860 on: September 11, 2021, 07:22:51 AM »

Shorter tours? Great NZ will have 0 test matches from now on.

2022 home schedule looks pretty packed but there is a 3 match test series against  NZ.
We don’t play New Zealand enough so this is welcome news for 2022.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #861 on: September 11, 2021, 10:42:36 AM »

Didn't the same thing happen with Eng Vs SA last year..don't think there was so much discussion here at that moment  :). Its a shame that this fascinating series ended/paused this way but Covid is a reality now and everyone needs to acknowledge that even with the best will in the world such cases would be inevitable sometimes. India already wanted to bring forward this test but ECB couldn't because of 'The Hundred' so don't think IPL argument is viable as ECB did the same.

Personally was looking very forward to watching this test and took a Friday off for the same reason but not to be.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #862 on: September 11, 2021, 12:26:24 PM »

Didn't the same thing happen with Eng Vs SA last year..don't think there was so much discussion here at that moment  :). Its a shame that this fascinating series ended/paused this way but Covid is a reality now and everyone needs to acknowledge that even with the best will in the world such cases would be inevitable sometimes. India already wanted to bring forward this test but ECB couldn't because of 'The Hundred' so don't think IPL argument is viable as ECB did the same.

Personally was looking very forward to watching this test and took a Friday off for the same reason but not to be.

The same thing didn’t happen with Eng v SA as both sets of players in this match has negative results, so they are, we’re, clear to play. They are double jabbed which they weren’t in that previous series.

The end of this series was too close to risk the Indian players in the IPL and that’s the reason they wanted the firth test brought forward.
There’s now a question on if the insurance will pay out as all players were negative, Lancashire are refunding 95000 tickets, not to mention catering and everything else.

You’re quite right thou, players must be protected, in a series this financially viable why the senior Indian management thought it ok to attend a book signing with excess of 100 people in attendance.

That takes some getting your head around.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #863 on: September 11, 2021, 02:36:25 PM »

For once, I find myself applauding Michael Vaughan for being outspoken. :o
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #864 on: September 11, 2021, 02:44:39 PM »

For once, I find myself applauding Michael Vaughan for being outspoken. :o

Yes me too. Double first we agree

Haha  :)
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #865 on: September 12, 2021, 09:44:48 PM »

However way this is handled by ICC, it will set a precedent for multiple future Test series. If players are not sick but refused to play because of a dressing room infection, is that a forfeited game or cancelled game? Lot of new scenarios need to be discussed by ICC.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #866 on: September 13, 2021, 10:36:49 AM »

This is still going on?? Just let it go English fans! Indian players have the right to choose if they are concerned about their well being (mental, physical and financial). Regarding the book event, I do agree that it could have been avoided, but it was not as if they were breaking any rules. The country has removed almost all Covid restrictions, stadiums are fully packed with fans, players are doing trips with their families during the breaks. None of them were breaking any rules. It was just an unfortunate incident.

I wonder why English players have withdrawn from the IPL though. I dont see the reasoning behind that.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #867 on: September 13, 2021, 10:44:59 AM »

This is still going on?? Just let it go English fans! Indian players have the right to choose if they are concerned about their well being (mental, physical and financial). Regarding the book event, I do agree that it could have been avoided, but it was not as if they were breaking any rules. The country has removed almost all Covid restrictions, stadiums are fully packed with fans, players are doing trips with their families during the breaks. None of them were breaking any rules. It was just an unfortunate incident.

I wonder why English players have withdrawn from the IPL though. I dont see the reasoning behind that.

Woakes and Malan pulled out because they are now in England squads that they weren't expecting to be when they signed, not sure about Bairstow
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #868 on: September 13, 2021, 11:45:03 AM »

This is still going on?? Just let it go English fans! Indian players have the right to choose if they are concerned about their well being (mental, physical and financial). Regarding the book event, I do agree that it could have been avoided, but it was not as if they were breaking any rules. The country has removed almost all Covid restrictions, stadiums are fully packed with fans, players are doing trips with their families during the breaks. None of them were breaking any rules. It was just an unfortunate incident.

I wonder why English players have withdrawn from the IPL though. I dont see the reasoning behind that.

I understand concerns over wellbieng etc but if that was the case why did some Indian players fly straight out to the IPL bubble the next day?  If wellbeing a genuine concern I would have expected some to take a break from cricket and spend time with families not go straight into another tournament.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #869 on: September 13, 2021, 03:29:25 PM »

Let it go England fans.

England were the poorer team in a series with two poor teams (but overall the series was quite good fun as both sides and random good knocks/bowling spells and devastating dire performances too so neither side can claim to be much cop). Sure England COULD have won the last game and drawn the series but then, India COULD have thrashed England yet again and took a devastating 3-1 win.

With Covid now being totally ignored by the country now it's leaving this sort of thing wide open and you can't blame players for taking the option of safety first. IF the ICC tried to play hard ball the BCCI could just stick two fingers up anyway, plus, you can't prove the players were wrong and who in their right mind is going to punish people for being wary of Covid. Naturally like all sportsmen/business you can raise an eyebrow and go 'yeah, that PR is a load of tosh' but then.. well... 99.9% of PR is tosh and made up rubbish so what's new?

Good to see some England players pull out of the IPL, hopefully it's to concentrate on some England games (of one format or another).
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