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Club captains and their short sightedness
« on: August 15, 2021, 10:42:45 AM »

Captains should play the game on the day form of their players!
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2021, 10:51:12 AM »

https://worcesterpark.play-cricket.com/website/results/4581556

You won the toss and bowled, got them out for 166/restricted them.
And then got cleaned up for 76 against one of the better sides in the league... Not sure what the skipper can do to mediocre batting. 
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2021, 10:56:27 AM »

Captains should play the game on the day form of their players!

Going off the scorecard.. You might want to narrow down WHY you hold that opinion. As Buzz says.. just looks like the team batted badly and so you lose. Oh well, amateur cricket. move on to next week... Unless you think he reversed the order or something....
Also looks like they batted NEARLY as badly.. only two of their lower order showed some fight and dug in a bit.. Yours didn't for example.
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2021, 11:33:34 AM »

What I mean is that the bowlers who are doing well, should be kept on, especially they're bowline well, applying pressure and creating chances!
Don't just change them, for any reason.
Our batting was definitely very poor!
Really hopeless batters!
They had a youthful team except their captain, and had batters lower down the order, who were capable to hitting 6s!
160 plus was always to be a testing run chase!
 



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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2021, 11:37:37 AM »

What I mean is that the bowlers who are doing well, should be kept on, especially they're bowline well, applying pressure and creating chances!
Don't just change them, for any reason.
Our batting was definitely very poor!
Really hopeless batters!
They had a youthful team except their captain, and had batters lower down the order, who were capable to hitting 6s!
160 plus was always to be a testing run chase!


umm, they hit 4 6's in the innings and only 14 4's.. tbf.. that's not exactly massive biffing .

Well, it depends what you want out of a game. If you are angling to bat loads and bowl loads in the name of win at all costs then sure.. However, good luck getting xi people out week after week playing like that (even if you're the 1xi and just drag people up, good luck getting out a 2/3/4/5's playing with that mantra).. That's one of hte big reasons people quit after all!

It's a saturday afternoon, amateur game of cricket.. of course you give people a go for christ sake. Who cares if you are 'better' than someone else.. just be happy for them and hopefully all 22 people go home having enjoyed the day!
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2021, 12:34:07 PM »


umm, they hit 4 6's in the innings and only 14 4's.. tbf.. that's not exactly massive biffing .

Well, it depends what you want out of a game. If you are angling to bat loads and bowl loads in the name of win at all costs then sure.. However, good luck getting xi people out week after week playing like that (even if you're the 1xi and just drag people up, good luck getting out a 2/3/4/5's playing with that mantra).. That's one of hte big reasons people quit after all!

It's a saturday afternoon, amateur game of cricket.. of course you give people a go for christ sake. Who cares if you are 'better' than someone else.. just be happy for them and hopefully all 22 people go home having enjoyed the day!
You don't get it, man!
I'm not talking about myself! Or about this game!
It's been going on with many captains, who think they know better! And start changing around bowlers! Even those bowlers haven't bowled well in those particular matches!
I'm sure, for you Saturday matches are the same as Sundays social games, but in reality/practice they're not!
And I don't have to win every single match!


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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2021, 01:05:22 PM »

"Who think they know better", why don't you step up as captain then? Think you're forgetting how much work goes into being a club cricket captain and how screwed your club would be without these guys putting in the hours.
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2021, 02:19:14 PM »

You don't get it, man!
I'm not talking about myself! Or about this game!
It's been going on with many captains, who think they know better! And start changing around bowlers! Even those bowlers haven't bowled well in those particular matches!
I'm sure, for you Saturday matches are the same as Sundays social games, but in reality/practice they're not!
And I don't have to win every single match!

They really are the same.. Are you paying to be there?? yes   Would the game go ahead if you didn't have 11 players .. yes... Is it an amateur game.. yes.. then it's just the same :)

Captains (generally, there are some at bigger clubs who do just rock up for the game) put in hours behind the scenes and some realise they need to give peeps a game or they won't get xi players (or other teams in their club will suffer). if you want to make the calls, be a captain and see how long you go before you annoy someone because you've not played them, or batted them, or bowled them etc etc
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2021, 03:08:27 PM »

I do respect captain, especially my teams captains.
But there is anyways space for improvements.
After all you play the game to win, not to lose.

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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2021, 04:41:36 PM »

What I mean is that the bowlers who are doing well, should be kept on, especially they're bowline well, applying pressure and creating chances!
Don't just change them, for any reason.

One of your bowlers took 5 wickets in his 14 overs. I presume he was kept on...

This post sounds like you're just upset you didn't take any wickets in your 9 overs, and feel you should've stayed on!
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2021, 05:19:57 PM »

Could you please list the mistakes made by your captain in this game, along with how many runs each mistake cost your team?
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2021, 05:32:27 PM »

I do respect captain, especially my teams captains.
But there is anyways space for improvements.
After all you play the game to win, not to lose.

Not a single person plays to lose fella. Just don't have to play win at all costs. If giving people a go means you lose then so be it. Not a single player will be trying to mess up.. happens. come 2100 on saturday evening no one really cares about the game anyway win or lose!
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2021, 05:33:54 PM »

Could you please list the mistakes made by your captain in this game, along with how many runs each mistake cost your team?

exactly. I'm seeing a close game where both sides didn't bat well (could be a hard pitch?) and one team's tail stood up and the other didn;t (maybe skill, maybe they just didn't fancy hanging around and played too many shots? - we have no idea.. you do as you were there)... You bowled 9 overs so maybe you were over bowled?
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2021, 05:34:44 PM »

One of your bowlers took 5 wickets in his 14 overs. I presume he was kept on...

This post sounds like you're just upset you didn't take any wickets in your 9 overs, and feel you should've stayed on!
No, it isn't like that.
Mike took 5er, I was fielding at mid off and was trying to calm him down as he's trying too hard with his left arm China men , resulting in high full tosses, which went for 6s!
He slowed down and started getting into his rythem and bowled Beautifully. He then got a bit, had 2 short spells to finish off his 14 overs.
I did bowl very well but I was also hit for 2x6 and 1x4.
I didn't have a problem when captain took me off, after my last ball went for a 6, so no issues there!
I guess he's made his mind up already, before the start of my 9th over.
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Re: Club captains and their short sightedness
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2021, 05:38:17 PM »

No, it isn't like that.
Mike took 5er, I was fielding at mid off and was trying to calm him down as he's trying too hard with his left arm China men , resulting in high full tosses, which went for 6s!
He slowed down and started getting into his rythem and bowled Beautifully. He then got a bit, had 2 short spells to finish off his 14 overs.
I did bowl very well but I was also hit for 2x6 and 1x4.
I didn't have a problem when captain took me off, after my last ball went for a 6, so no issues there!
I guess he's made his mind up already, before the start of my 9th over.

you bowled 2 6 balls... he must have only bowled 2 6 balls....
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