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G1 butterfly
« on: September 06, 2021, 08:26:05 PM »
Was surprised to just see a bat being sold as a G1 with a heavy butterfly stain.

Could go like a train obviously but as grading for the most part seems to come down to the aesthetics and butterfly stains are a bit marmite.... errrr, interested to know what you chaps think?
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2021, 09:07:50 PM »
Depending on where the stain is, I could maaaybe stretch to something heavily stained being fairly graded as G2 but G1 is a bit of a piss take.
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2021, 06:20:31 AM »
The wright's definition (which is as close to industry standard as there is) has butterfly willow as g4 and in some circumstances it could be g2.

Examples of each here.


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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2021, 06:54:33 AM »
A few weeks ago I've seen one butterfly stained bat as close to white willow! As less as I've seen, butterfly stain, only in it's back. Oval havel handle. Haven't held a better balanced butterfly bat with perfect straight grains. Price tag £350!
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2021, 07:28:36 AM »
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2021, 08:33:03 AM »
I must admit when I saw the bat on TCB I thought Mark had fudged up the advert and the photo.

I love a butterfly bat but I wouldn't pay £300 if the stain was on the face.

Crazy pricing .
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2021, 09:15:32 AM »
300+ GBP is nuts!
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2021, 09:20:06 AM »
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2021, 10:14:34 AM »
Hope he's got that on sale or return lol
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2021, 11:11:33 AM »
For me it depends on how you've gone about ordering it and the cleft itself. I don't mind if it is a one off really special low density and pretty Butterfly for it to demand a more premium price - afterall, we know that density is a big selling point these days. The GB Willow one however as nice as it looks, doesn't really fit into this category.


I saw a light butterfly cleft the other day with the most immaculate grains, with tiny bits of staining up at the splice which would have  been covered by stickers. If I was sold this as a G1, loved it and then peeled stickers off for a refurb and found the stains, I wouldn't be mad.
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2021, 12:22:13 PM »
Grade one butterfly is a pile of steaming BS.

That bat you’ve linked is a G4 - potentially a G3
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2021, 12:52:39 PM »
Quote from: LEACHY48 on September 07, 2021, 12:22:13 PM
Grade one butterfly is a pile of steaming BS.

That bat you’ve linked is a G4 - potentially a G3

Agreed, it no better than the g4 chase I have in the picture above which cost about £75.
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2021, 05:21:08 PM »
The whole grading things is a bit BS though isn’t it? If someone wants to buy a £300 butterfly then it’s worth £300, that’s pretty much it. If that’s not you then look elsewhere.

I don’t really understand the constant outrage at bat price threads on here. It’s not like there’s only one or two batmakers/brands in the world.
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2021, 06:37:29 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on September 07, 2021, 05:21:08 PM
The whole grading things is a bit BS though isn’t it? If someone wants to buy a £300 butterfly then it’s worth £300, that’s pretty much it. If that’s not you then look elsewhere.

I don’t really understand the constant outrage at bat price threads on here. It’s not like there’s only one or two batmakers/brands in the world.

Far too much sense! That sort of thinking is banned around here I thought.
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Re: G1 butterfly
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2021, 06:55:34 PM »
I don't believe butterfly can be graded above G4/G5, no matter what.  I would not buy one if it is graded/priced at G3 level, forget about G2/G1.
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