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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1050 on: January 15, 2022, 08:28:38 AM »

Our bowlers have not had rest between innings it’s no wonder they are all not injured.

Our coach criticising Robinsons fitness was way off the mark. He’s bowled well all summer and out there this time.



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« Reply #1051 on: January 15, 2022, 09:30:17 AM »

Our bowlers have not had rest between innings it’s no wonder they are all not injured.

Our coach criticising Robinsons fitness was way off the mark. He’s bowled well all summer and out there this time.

Man we are so abject 
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1052 on: January 15, 2022, 09:32:47 AM »

Pfffft - I can't summon much enthusiasm for this.

I'd quite like them to throw at least 5 newbies into the tests in the Windies to see who swims.

You could justafiably change at least 4 batters, the keeper, the spinner and rotate a couple of seamers.

I know people will argue against wholesale changes but the next lot need a change to shine and can;t be any worse!
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« Reply #1053 on: January 15, 2022, 09:41:24 AM »

I mean, Flintoff was essentially a top class fourth seamer (Freddie, Harmison, Hoggard and Simon Jones - all too short lived as a bowling group) but also a quality middle order bat. I don't see how Green doing that doesn't balance the Aussie side nicely?

You need to find another two decent openers as Warner is on the way out and Harris isn't it. Pucovski looks a good option if he could stop getting hit in the head. Don't know who else is coming through who looks promising.

Middle order - Labuschagne will be quality for years, Head looks like he's establishing himself, Khawaja is very experienced backup. Smith a bit of a worry, not looking himself but everyone knows how good he is. Green at 6 and bring in a better keeper than Carey, Inglis seems to be popular with more avid watchers of Shield cricket?
I don’t want to disrespect Flintoff but as time evolved he was a bowling all rounder.
Green’s red ball record for WA is exceptional averages close to 60. That proves he’s too good to stay in the lower middle order long term.

Don’t see us changing the keeper prior to touring Pakistan. But Carey’s glove work isn’t very good. I would’ve preferred Inglis but he’ll have to wait until at least the tour of India.

Pucovski hopefully will comeback strong. But there are a few others in the mix. Still think Renshaw could be back one day.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1054 on: January 15, 2022, 09:42:12 AM »

What did Lawrence do wrong not to even get a game? Pope has been terrible
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« Reply #1055 on: January 15, 2022, 09:55:20 AM »

What did Lawrence do wrong not to even get a game? Pope has been terrible

Yeah, absolute joke Lawrence didn't get a game here ahead of Pope.

Pfffft - I can't summon much enthusiasm for this.

I'd quite like them to throw at least 5 newbies into the tests in the Windies to see who swims.

You could justafiably change at least 4 batters, the keeper, the spinner and rotate a couple of seamers.

I know people will argue against wholesale changes but the next lot need a change to shine and can;t be any worse!

Would love to see this - Yates in for Malan and Crawley to 3, Lawrence given a proper go, Foakes in to keep. Possibly another more leftfield batting change as well, someone like Joe Clarke.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1056 on: January 15, 2022, 10:00:26 AM »

Abject, feeble, white-ball tosh!

Sling half of 'em out! De-bag the coach and change the captain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1057 on: January 15, 2022, 10:09:58 AM »

I’ve been a big fan of Pope but his shot today was abysmal. The absolute best result was a run down to third man the way he played it with a slip cordon.

It makes no sense at all. It may be rearranging the deckchairs but Lawrence deserves a chance in the Windies at 5 or 6.

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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1058 on: January 15, 2022, 10:25:53 AM »

Aussies doing a good job of making England's batting today look less abject.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1059 on: January 15, 2022, 10:56:38 AM »

Pfffft - I can't summon much enthusiasm for this.

I'd quite like them to throw at least 5 newbies into the tests in the Windies to see who swims.

You could justafiably change at least 4 batters, the keeper, the spinner and rotate a couple of seamers.

I know people will argue against wholesale changes but the next lot need a change to shine and can;t be any worse!

Wholesale changes are definitely what’s needed. They cannot perform worse than the squad has during this ashes. We’ve bowled Australia out three times in nine innings, and they’ve gone past 400 four times. We can’t even scrape 300  together once.

Let the blokes go home and try and forget about this series and bring the twos (the lads who are on the verge and that management wants to see eg Lawrence, Bohannon, etc) to the West Indies.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1060 on: January 15, 2022, 11:10:17 AM »

That's an absolute ripper from Wood
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« Reply #1061 on: January 15, 2022, 05:28:36 PM »

Pretty sad that the only one young batsman has improved their reputation on this tour: Zak Crawley. A great shame that nobody else has emerged.
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« Reply #1062 on: January 15, 2022, 05:32:47 PM »

Pretty sad that the only one young batsman has improved their reputation on this tour: Zak Crawley. A great shame that nobody else has emerged.

Real shame that Dan Lawrence hasn't been given a chance to improve his reputation.
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« Reply #1063 on: January 15, 2022, 05:59:24 PM »

Real shame that Dan Lawrence hasn't been given a chance to improve his reputation.

I think they have handled Lawrence poorly. They mess around certain players,like him, Folkestone and Leach, and then treat the likes of Pope differently.
I know I'm being negative but I just don't like the way our team is set up in any shape or form!
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1064 on: January 15, 2022, 05:59:34 PM »

Pretty sad that the only one young batsman has improved their reputation on this tour: Zak Crawley. A great shame that nobody else has emerged.

I’m not excusing the coaching but it’s tough to come in and play with literally zero games between tests.
England have backed Crawley and Pope with contracts but maybe only one of those comes thru. I’m of the opinion Pope has had quite a few chances. Hameed has struggled with the extra pace and bounce.

I don’t believe myself Sibley should be totally binned but with the West Indies tour next up Lawrence deserves the same amount of chances Pope has had. At least Lawrence plays some shots when he is in.

Don’t know whether Hameed should make that tour or go back to county cricket.

We have not really made much progress totally agree. Once again our bowlers keep us in matches.

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