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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #825 on: December 29, 2021, 05:00:07 PM »
Quote from: Real Munson on December 29, 2021, 04:29:23 PM
I'd love Buttler to succeed - I think he would have done in the Strauss/Cook/Trott etc. era when he could have been coming in with the score 250/300 for 5 and could play his natural aggressive game. Sadly that has never transpired as the top 5 as a unit have constantly failed to deliver. As things stand, I'd think Foakes should be playing.

If Buttler/Bairstow and Stokes want to succeed at test level, then I think they need to sacrifice the IPL money and play some red ball county cricket. The test arena isn't the place to learn on the job.

It’s not for them to sacrifice, it’s for them to be enticed by the ECB. If they don’t want to play, no problem, it’s not as if we’re great with them in the side.
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« Reply #826 on: December 29, 2021, 05:14:12 PM »
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« Reply #827 on: December 29, 2021, 07:45:55 PM »
Smart thing for Root would be to step down as captain after the series and just think about breaking batting records. He is playing well (not great) and can continue to score runs without the captaincy monkey.
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« Reply #828 on: December 29, 2021, 09:29:35 PM »
'Silverwood to miss fourth Ashes Test after being forced to isolate'

https://www.skysports.com/Cricket/12505953

Can you imagine if we actually manage to win the next test.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #829 on: December 29, 2021, 09:41:31 PM »
Quote from: six and out on December 29, 2021, 09:29:35 PM
'Silverwood to miss fourth Ashes Test after being forced to isolate'

https://www.skysports.com/Cricket/12505953

Can you imagine if we actually manage to win the next test.

The irony of it  :) . His fate may already be made up.
Kirsten touted in the papers as being in line. Apart from the advantage of coaching other teams and having a decent test record I believe he is primarily a batting coach and boy do we need some help.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #830 on: December 30, 2021, 09:50:07 AM »
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #831 on: December 30, 2021, 12:46:26 PM »
I don't think that the performance this winter can be at all attributed to the ECB not paying sufficient attention to the preparation for this tour.  The national set up is as well-resourced as it has ever been.  The question is the contribution made by those who have been appointed to key roles.  Silverwood cannot survive what has been an abject failure of his management but Giles should also follow him
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« Reply #832 on: December 30, 2021, 04:37:29 PM »
I understand that Gary Kirsten comes with a huge reputation but is his coaching ability ‘over hyped’?
Granted he lead the Indians to a World Cup and took both India & South Africa to top ranking in test cricket.
But working with Tendulkar, Sehwag, Dravid, Kallis, Steyn etc is a damn sight easier than what England are currently producing.
Kirsten might be a legendary coach or he might be a Guardiola that looks good when he’s got a bunch of legends in his corner.
Just my observation. 
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« Reply #833 on: December 30, 2021, 05:31:13 PM »
Not sure Guardiola is the comparison you want given his record of developing talented players into world class performers.
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« Reply #834 on: December 30, 2021, 06:37:16 PM »
They are going to need somehow to get some Championship games in July and August but that’s easier said than done given the money involved for the hundred and 2020.

But we do need a world class coach. The batting has been a huge issue going back years not just this tour.

It was Fletcher that improved us batting wise a few years ago we need something similar.

The ECB have treated the test side as second best since our exit from the 2015 tournament, somehow it has to be balanced back
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #835 on: December 30, 2021, 07:29:09 PM »
Quote from: Thor Odin’s Son on December 30, 2021, 04:37:29 PM
I understand that Gary Kirsten comes with a huge reputation but is his coaching ability ‘over hyped’?
Granted he lead the Indians to a World Cup and took both India & South Africa to top ranking in test cricket.
But working with Tendulkar, Sehwag, Dravid, Kallis, Steyn etc is a damn sight easier than what England are currently producing.
Kirsten might be a legendary coach or he might be a Guardiola that looks good when he’s got a bunch of legends in his corner.
Just my observation.

Hmmm - Kirsten and some of his trusted lieutenants vs the current Gerry Cottle set-up?
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #836 on: December 30, 2021, 08:19:16 PM »
According to an interview on cricinfo Kirsten was interviewed last time round but made in clear it was one format or another not both

He is saying the same thing this time round- it needs different coaches.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #837 on: December 30, 2021, 08:39:15 PM »
Wise man - someone needs to clean up the mess Bayliss / Giles / Harrison left behind
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #838 on: December 31, 2021, 01:45:06 AM »
Travis Head has tested positive for covid19. Mitch Marsh, Nic Maddison and Josh Inglis added to the squad. Wouldn’t be surprised if the remaining matches are binned off.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #839 on: December 31, 2021, 08:19:43 AM »
Looks like the Aussies are scared of a comeback to 3 - 2 after looking like a whitewash. Typical!
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