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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #180 on: December 09, 2021, 12:34:12 PM »

Leach may have been given a raw deal, but a test match spinner should be able to at least contain regardless of the pitch, practice or opposition. He's gone at 9's and its not the first time he's been targeted. A good ploy from the Aussies but you'd think he'd come up with a plan to combat that. Surely the figures of the seamers just shows this was a poor selection based on the pitch conditions though.

However, it's the same issues for us. Brittle top order, fitness issues within the seamers, lack of real quality spin options and poor catching. None of those new problems. You can't score 140 odd, then not take every chance and expect anything.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #181 on: December 09, 2021, 02:12:58 PM »

Well batted Mr. Head. The future of this series is looking fairly bleak for England, although there is a long way to go yet!!
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« Reply #182 on: December 09, 2021, 04:42:45 PM »

On this pitch of all pitches I was surprised Leach played looking at the wicket.

Tufnell says on BBC in an interview Leach was given a hospital pass and I agree with him.
I think as fans we really do need to accept we are pretty average but also should there be questions how the team is being managed?
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« Reply #183 on: December 09, 2021, 05:36:07 PM »

On this pitch of all pitches I was surprised Leach played looking at the wicket.

Tufnell says on BBC in an interview Leach was given a hospital pass and I agree with him.
I think as fans we really do need to accept we are pretty average but also should there be questions how the team is being managed?

The bit that gets me most is that supposedly our bowling unit were rested for the last 18 months to prepare them for this series. Then in the opening test, we rest our arguably best bowlers
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« Reply #184 on: December 09, 2021, 05:44:54 PM »

The bit that gets me most is that supposedly our bowling unit were rested for the last 18 months to prepare them for this series. Then in the opening test, we rest our arguably best bowlers

This is exactly it for me. All the planning has been for this 1st test etc... remember the rest and rotation debacle during Sri Lanka and India. I think someone said earlier its almost like they decided this would be the team 3 months ago and then didn't bother to look at the conditions.

I would really like to know about who makes the decisions on all this between Root and Silverwood. It will be an interesting presser if we get rolled 2nd dig.

You can talk all about us only getting 140 but we knew the batting frailties and to deny those and bat 1st, when staring at the greenist pitch the Gabba Ashes Test has seen in decades is just stupidity.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #185 on: December 09, 2021, 06:50:11 PM »

Totally agree with the last 2 comments. We know the day night test follows this and it’s back to back, but I thought we would play one of Anderson or Broad at least.

Having picked a spinner Root must of thought we cannot bat last even on a green wicket.

It’s frustrating. We have to get selection right just to compete.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #186 on: December 09, 2021, 07:58:43 PM »

I have a feeling that this match won’t go in to day four. Australia probably already have enough to win by an innings, but if they add another 80-100 in the morning session I’d say the likelihood increases from probable to definite.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #187 on: December 09, 2021, 08:43:49 PM »

Why can’t Root bowl more? He’s decent enough. On this pitch, picking Leach over Broad was moronic.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #188 on: December 09, 2021, 08:45:12 PM »

Also have to say- Marnus played a stunning knock. He left plenty of wicket taking deliveries- deliveries that would have certainly knicked off other batsmen. Really set it up for Head.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #189 on: December 09, 2021, 10:00:21 PM »

The bit that gets me most is that supposedly our bowling unit were rested for the last 18 months to prepare them for this series. Then in the opening test, we rest our arguably best bowlers

Bizarre strategy in all honesty, the fact that neither of them are playing the first test is simply baffling.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #190 on: December 09, 2021, 10:09:42 PM »

You won't win games of cricket in Aus scoring 150 in the first dig. But yeah,all down to the choice of bowling attack.
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« Reply #191 on: December 09, 2021, 10:49:39 PM »

Interesting to see Nowell and Bess took 9 wickets between the on the first day of the Lions vs Australia A match. The Lions top 4 didnt go well in response though. 13-3 on the close of day 1.
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« Reply #192 on: December 09, 2021, 11:04:37 PM »

You won't win games of cricket in Aus scoring 150 in the first dig. But yeah,all down to the choice of bowling attack.

We shouldn't have batted first on a green pitch with rain forecast during the day.  The decision to bat first was dictated by getting the team selection wrong. 
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« Reply #193 on: December 09, 2021, 11:12:18 PM »

This is going to be a huge test of character now.  Australia is such a difficult place to tour when things are going badly.  An England win was always against the odds - in the last 20 years only one away side has won a series in either country - but England could not have asked for better conditions to start the series at Brisbane.  To voluntarily squander that advantage before the first ball is bowled is going to be such a tough one to come back from.  Conversely, the boost it will have given Australia will give them a massive amount of momentum.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #194 on: December 09, 2021, 11:40:05 PM »

This already feels lethargic, like the game is over already
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