Topic: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22 (Read 90807 times)

rickjames · « **Reply #420 on:** December 18, 2021, 10:29:09 AM »

Quote from: Kulli on December 18, 2021, 10:22:43 AM

Why?

New ball, under lights to a team that can't bat with seamers who are still pretty fresh. Just seems odd.

Bungle · « **Reply #421 on:** December 18, 2021, 10:41:24 AM »

This isn't even a contest, series will be over in the next test match unless we can somehow pull a shock result.

golders · « **Reply #422 on:** December 18, 2021, 10:55:17 AM »

How is Robinson not opening the bowling again ffs

Jimbo · « **Reply #423 on:** December 18, 2021, 11:53:35 AM »

Lawrence got runs on the last full Lions tour to Aus, time to give Pope a rest. Crawley the only option to bring in for Burns unfortunately but can't see how you keep Burns in the side, his confidence must be in absolute pieces.

jonny77 · « **Reply #424 on:** December 18, 2021, 12:12:08 PM »

Quote from: six and out on December 18, 2021, 09:19:17 AM

Whether you trust Leach or Bess or not, not playing a genuine spinner on this pitch is ridiculous.

With Adelaide's history and the groundsman's comments it's so bad

Really? You can't seriously call it a bad shout to leave out Leach after the last test. Whether he was given a tough task or not, he didn't really instill confidence. Bess isn't up to it yet either unfortunately.

We've dropped too many catches (think maybe 12 to the aussies 1) and haven't built on good sessions when batting. Even Swann wouldn't have changed that!

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #425 on:** December 18, 2021, 12:35:54 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on December 18, 2021, 11:53:35 AM

Lawrence got runs on the last full Lions tour to Aus, time to give Pope a rest. Crawley the only option to bring in for Burns unfortunately but can't see how you keep Burns in the side, his confidence must be in absolute pieces.

It is far too generous of you to say that Pope should be rested. Unceremoniously dropped would be a far more fitting fate. He is all the worst bits of Ian Bell and James Vince rolled in to one. The only surprise is that Warne hasn�t started calling him Shermanator on comms yet.

Kulli · « **Reply #426 on:** December 18, 2021, 01:27:51 PM »

Quote from: rickjames on December 18, 2021, 10:29:09 AM

New ball, under lights to a team that can't bat with seamers who are still pretty fresh. Just seems odd.

Games won, they can put us in under lights with a new ball and even fresher seamers tonorrow and out even more miles on our bowlers legs.

Devondumpling00 · « **Reply #427 on:** December 18, 2021, 01:36:12 PM »

Quote from: Kulli on December 18, 2021, 01:27:51 PM

Games won, they can put us in under lights with a new ball and even fresher seamers tonorrow and out even more miles on our bowlers legs.

Yep. Really didn't matter what they did, they'd still win anyway. Now they have a chance to rest their seamers and give Harris some match practice with the pressure off.

six and out · « **Reply #428 on:** December 18, 2021, 01:43:16 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on December 18, 2021, 12:12:08 PM

Really? You can't seriously call it a bad shout to leave out Leach after the last test. Whether he was given a tough task or not, he didn't really instill confidence. Bess isn't up to it yet either unfortunately.

We've dropped too many catches (think maybe 12 to the aussies 1) and haven't built on good sessions when batting. Even Swann wouldn't have changed that!

Definitely a bad call, look at the previous day night tests at Adelaide, Lyon is one of the highest wicket takers, Aswin got wickets when India were there last tour, Adelaide turns as the groundsman said before the game.

Leach is a completely different bowler on this wicket, that has turned on day 1.

Would it have made the difference, maybe/probably not, of course like you say we have dropped too many chances.

But you have to at least put the best team on the park to have a chance of winning and in both tests we haven't done that!

Jimbo · « **Reply #429 on:** December 18, 2021, 02:37:14 PM »

Quote from: SouthpawMark on December 18, 2021, 12:35:54 PM

It is far too generous of you to say that Pope should be rested. Unceremoniously dropped would be a far more fitting fate. He is all the worst bits of Ian Bell and James Vince rolled in to one. The only surprise is that Warne hasn�t started calling him Shermanator on comms yet.

He's still young though, plenty time to develop his game against spin which is where his real weakness is. Up to England management to get him the coaching he needs and make the most of a young player who has obvious talent with a fairly glaring weak spot.

Labuschagne and Smith both had to go away and make big changes to their game before they had success at international level, with proper support no reason Pope can't do the same.

Rez · « **Reply #430 on:** December 18, 2021, 02:44:28 PM »

Pretty much as expected but still makes me so angry.

We need to rebuild properly, not just shuffle the pack again. Buttler can't be allowed to keep the gloves that much is certain, Foakes or Bairstow both better options. Pope has had too many chances now and constant talk of 'will come good' is getting very tired. Burns, Crawley, Hameed.... who knows, the cupboard is bare so we have to go with the best of a bad bunch. With his confidence in shatters, Burns is certainly not the best option anymore. Woakes offers little with he ball and can't really be used just to bolster the hopeless top order.

As a group they look broken, even Root and Malan who are the only bright sparks right now look like they are drowning in mediocrity.

More than anything else, the team needs a spine.

Rez · « **Reply #431 on:** December 18, 2021, 02:50:18 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on December 18, 2021, 02:37:14 PM

He's still young though, plenty time to develop his game against spin which is where his real weakness is. Up to England management to get him the coaching he needs and make the most of a young player who has obvious talent with a fairly glaring weak spot.

Labuschagne and Smith both had to go away and make big changes to their game before they had success at international level, with proper support no reason Pope can't do the same.

It's not just his weakness against spin though is it. Rash shot selection, hitting one decent shot out of the middle and thinking he is in and can go into 'Pope' mode all the time..... Sometimes talent is not enough at the top level. Maybe he can go away and return a better test bat but right now he looks very far from being the real deal that everyone was hoping for.

ppccopener · « **Reply #432 on:** December 18, 2021, 03:07:03 PM »

Yes agree with the above, I wanted Pope in but again he gets to the pitch and tries to shovel it for one. It�s not going to work either trust your defender or get to it and hit it properly.

If we bring back Crawley it will be with no runs behind him since being dropped.

Really as others have said we don�t have the quality to choose from

Bungle · « **Reply #433 on:** December 18, 2021, 03:51:41 PM »

I think Crawley has got to come in for Burns and someone (presumably Bairstow) for Buttler.

ppccopener · « **Reply #434 on:** December 18, 2021, 03:56:20 PM »

Would it matter Crawley is not an opening bat for Kent?

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