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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #615 on: December 26, 2021, 02:10:04 PM »

Root will do okay, but I'm not expecting much from Branch.

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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #616 on: December 26, 2021, 02:20:40 PM »

It is absolutely wrong to blame Root and Silverwood. They can only work with what is available to them.

I think Root had tried to bring on some young batsmen but is hampered by our system and the available talent.

Root needs help, a good experienced coach who can help build the team.

The selections for the first two tests were just wrong, we are not good enough to get selection so wrong and still compete.
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« Reply #617 on: December 26, 2021, 02:26:52 PM »

They've decided on who is available to them and have got it disastrously wrong. Silverwood has failed to prepare a sensible squad and shows no signs of having improved anybody.

They have picked the best players available to them. Other than Ben Foakes, who do you think ought to be in the squad?
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #618 on: December 26, 2021, 02:29:24 PM »

The greedy f***ers who signed off the H****** and still insisted the T20 was still played in the peak of summer are to blame.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #619 on: December 26, 2021, 02:45:31 PM »

They have picked the best players available to them. Other than Ben Foakes, who do you think ought to be in the squad?

Mahmood, Parkinson and Foakes for starters. I don't think Bairstow should be there, I'd probably not have Craig Overton either.

I think they should have introduced players to the squad who were horses for courses picks for Aussie pitches, and blooded the likes of Parkinson long ago.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #620 on: December 26, 2021, 03:27:16 PM »

To blame?
1-Selectors
2-Players
3-Captain
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #621 on: December 26, 2021, 03:34:18 PM »

Mahmood, Parkinson and Foakes for starters. I don't think Bairstow should be there, I'd probably not have Craig Overton either.

I think they should have introduced players to the squad who were horses for courses picks for Aussie pitches, and blooded the likes of Parkinson long ago.

I think its a good idea, especially for Australia. Mahmood is a good selection. Its clear the bowlers are lacking half a yard of pace. Thats fine, they'll still be very useful in English conditions. Not sure what can be done about the batsmen though?

Australia haven't won in England for 20 years either, but it's obvious they are much closer to winning here, than we are winning there.

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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #622 on: December 26, 2021, 03:36:50 PM »

Mahmood, Parkinson and Foakes for starters. I don't think Bairstow should be there, I'd probably not have Craig Overton either.

I think they should have introduced players to the squad who were horses for courses picks for Aussie pitches, and blooded the likes of Parkinson long ago.
None of them please,
Need young blood who has no fear to failure! Technically reasonable sound but solid! Who has that capacity for coming 5-10 years!
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #623 on: December 26, 2021, 04:09:10 PM »

I think its a good idea, especially for Australia. Mahmood is a good selection. Its clear the bowlers are lacking half a yard of pace. Thats fine, they'll still be very useful in English conditions. Not sure what can be done about the batsmen though?

Australia haven't won in England for 20 years either, but it's obvious they are much closer to winning here, than we are winning there.

Given how crucial the opening role is, I think it needs to be looked at as a specialist job. Arguably top 3 should be selected for conditions, same as the bowlers are.

Batting wise, it's failure to grit it out that is causing problems. Select three openers suited to conditions and who have shown the technique and mentality to bat long, stick them top 3.

Foakes at 7, not just for his keeping but because he looks to have far more of a natural test match mentality than Buttler.

Start looking to introduce openers with solid, repeatable technique. I think Burns has shown he's another one out the Ballance book - outstanding county player, mediocre at test level because of technical issues he won't correct.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #624 on: December 26, 2021, 04:15:26 PM »

Root will do okay, but I'm not expecting much from Branch.

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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #625 on: December 26, 2021, 05:30:02 PM »

To blame?
1-Selectors
2-Players
3-Captain

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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #626 on: December 26, 2021, 05:41:08 PM »

None of them please,
Who has that capacity for coming 5-10 years!


You mean like 24 yr old Mahmood, 25 yr old Parkinson and 28 yr old Foakes?
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #627 on: December 26, 2021, 05:47:27 PM »

Foakes has got to come in surely after this series.

If I remember right mid to late 80’s the Aussies when thru a rebuilding patch and went with youth. And they stuck with them.

I think that is the only thing we can do and just hope the ones we have now plus Pope and maybe Sibley come good.

Really don’t think there’s much else we can do. Malan has a role and there might be one or two more batters not yet identified.

I would have Lawrence in and not Bairstow to try that theory.

This series has long gone what is there to lose
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #628 on: December 26, 2021, 06:21:23 PM »

Sadly, we just aren't going to become a decent Test team anytime soon. It's going to take time and I'm not even sure it's possible within the current structure unless there is significant change.

Sure, there is a lot wrong with the management but at grass roots we are way off the pace.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #629 on: December 26, 2021, 06:26:27 PM »



You mean like 24 yr old Mahmood, 25 yr old Parkinson and 28 yr old Foakes?
Yes, once this Ashes is dusted,
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