Topic: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22 (Read 91013 times)

Jimbo · « **Reply #915 on:** January 07, 2022, 10:48:46 AM »

Quote from: ppccopener on January 07, 2022, 10:45:28 AM

It�s a bit of a merry go round but England could well give the gloves back to Bairstow after this tour and that would leave a batting spot. Pope or Burns to return maybe.

I actually think Foakes should keep and then pick the best 6 batsmen ahead of him.
Which would not be an easy task

Really hope they don't go down the route of giving Bairstow the gloves back. A competent keeper for sure but I don't believe he can be the batsman they want and their keeper.

As you say, Foakes at 7 with the gloves. If they're going to pick Bairstow then pick him as a counter-punching 6 with a great deal of experience.

Personally I'd rather see Lawrence given a run at 5 and Stokes batting at 6 but it looks like he may be out with injury for a while again.

Bungle · « **Reply #916 on:** January 07, 2022, 10:52:32 AM »

Well batted Jonny! Finally a big score from an England batsman. Unfortunately with the amount of ducks and low scores we cannot compete with their total (shock.)

SD · « **Reply #917 on:** January 07, 2022, 11:23:39 AM »

The second innings of this test could be interesting if, as suggested, Butler and Bairstow aren't fit to keep and Stokes isn't fit to bowl.

Of all the selection calls, Sam Billings keeping wicket in the final test seemed pretty remote at the start of the tour

jonny77 · « **Reply #918 on:** January 07, 2022, 11:30:12 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo on January 07, 2022, 10:48:46 AM

Really hope they don't go down the route of giving Bairstow the gloves back. A competent keeper for sure but I don't believe he can be the batsman they want and their keeper.

As you say, Foakes at 7 with the gloves. If they're going to pick Bairstow then pick him as a counter-punching 6 with a great deal of experience.

Personally I'd rather see Lawrence given a run at 5 and Stokes batting at 6 but it looks like he may be out with injury for a while again.

Bairstow comes back with a ton and you'd pick Lawrence?! Bit harsh that mate 😆

They've got to pick Bairstow as 6 or give him the gloves, but just do one or the other for a while instead of messing everyone about. Butler was always a suspect selection for me and they tried to shoe horn him in when it wasn't needed. Personally I'd go with Bairstow as keeper at 7, as it allows an extra batter and his keeping is good enough. His record there is good too and it allows us to blood a decent long term 5, with Stokes for me in a more natural position at 6.

That said, I'm not opposed to them picking Foakes but just don't see them doing it. Either way i think Bairstow is in our top 7 batsmen, but then i thought that last year as well.

Jimbo · « **Reply #919 on:** January 07, 2022, 11:43:05 AM »

Don't hate your solution @jonny77 but I think Foakes would be a bit more nuggety at 7 than Bairstow who, for all his qualities, likes to get after the bowlers.

For me that's what the lower middle order is missing given that Root, Stokes and Bairstow all like to play their shots.

While I could see the value of a middle order of Root, Lawrence/Clarke, Stokes, Bairstow, it just feels like a bit more of a shake up is needed. Obviously they need some experience around the side but I do wonder how much the setup can change with the same faces in the team.

Kulli · « **Reply #920 on:** January 07, 2022, 11:46:19 AM »

Quote from: SD on January 07, 2022, 11:23:39 AM

The second innings of this test could be interesting if, as suggested, Butler and Bairstow aren't fit to keep and Stokes isn't fit to bowl.

Of all the selection calls, Sam Billings keeping wicket in the final test seemed pretty remote at the start of the tour

Pope was keeping in the nets earlier on.

jonny77 · « **Reply #921 on:** January 07, 2022, 12:09:14 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on January 07, 2022, 11:43:05 AM

Don't hate your solution @jonny77 but I think Foakes would be a bit more nuggety at 7 than Bairstow who, for all his qualities, likes to get after the bowlers.

For me that's what the lower middle order is missing given that Root, Stokes and Bairstow all like to play their shots.

While I could see the value of a middle order of Root, Lawrence/Clarke, Stokes, Bairstow, it just feels like a bit more of a shake up is needed. Obviously they need some experience around the side but I do wonder how much the setup can change with the same faces in the team.

I get you mate and I like Foakes, just think Bairstow can and has done a good job there. His average at 7 with the gloves is good and think he can grit it out too.

Let's be honest, we have bigger issues than this though! 😂

SD · « **Reply #922 on:** January 07, 2022, 01:18:03 PM »

Quote from: Kulli on January 07, 2022, 11:46:19 AM

Pope was keeping in the nets earlier on.

Yes, it seems possible that he may have to do it as a sub in in second innings here

Rez · « **Reply #923 on:** January 07, 2022, 02:42:53 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on January 07, 2022, 10:30:03 AM

Hope this innings silences all the Bairstow haters! Well played!

Absolutely no chance of that!

He is still one of our best Test batsmen but just as important he also has the fight for it which many of the new crop seem to lack.

Is he a long term solution.... clearly, no. Is he one of our best available Test batsmen.... with the highest series average and one of a handful that have scored over 100 runs in the series (and his 143 coming from just 3 innings, compared with 7 for Root, Malan, Stokes).... clearly, yes!

Not a popular opinion but it is the truth.

billyb · « **Reply #924 on:** January 07, 2022, 04:13:40 PM »

Foakes can't play can be due to the quarantine stuff? He isn't even in Australia I think.

Jimbo · « **Reply #925 on:** January 07, 2022, 05:22:14 PM »

Quote from: billyb on January 07, 2022, 04:13:40 PM

Foakes can't play can be due to the quarantine stuff? He isn't even in Australia I think.

Not suggesting him for this series, talking about down the line.

golders · « **Reply #926 on:** January 07, 2022, 07:00:02 PM »

No way in hell should Pope keep again. That would be crazy

Jimbo · « **Reply #927 on:** January 07, 2022, 07:09:37 PM »

Quote from: golders on January 07, 2022, 07:00:02 PM

No way in hell should Pope keep again. That would be crazy

If Bairstow and Buttler are both goosed then do they have another option in this test?

ppccopener · « **Reply #928 on:** January 07, 2022, 07:12:04 PM »

Well as mentioned Billings has joined the squad so he could play the fifth, not sure of the rules on sub keepers for the current match

golders · « **Reply #929 on:** January 07, 2022, 07:22:56 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on January 07, 2022, 07:09:37 PM

If Bairstow and Buttler are both goosed then do they have another option in this test?

Oh,I see,you're talking about Pope this test as a sub.

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