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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1125 on: January 16, 2022, 12:34:21 PM »
England made their highest Ashes opening stand in eight years and still got bowled out for 124.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1126 on: January 16, 2022, 12:35:21 PM »
Smith singlehandedly kept Australia in that series though, one world class player doing extraordinary things doesn't mean you've got a good team.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1127 on: January 16, 2022, 01:52:55 PM »
Quote from: Chompy9760 on January 16, 2022, 11:57:02 AM
hmmmm, pretty sure the 2019 ashes scoreline was 2 - 2 , so if Aus were useless, then Eng were equally useless in their own back yard.

After bowling Aus out for 155, and Burns and Crawley's start, England had all the momentum, and I thought were a genuine chance for a win.  To lose 10/56 in 22 overs was..... well, it's hard to find words for!

Yes 2019 was drawn series. To go back to a winning Ashes series for us we have to go back to 2010-11 series. I don’t recall an Australian win in the UK before 2010
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« Reply #1128 on: January 16, 2022, 02:04:49 PM »
The reality is that these are 2 pretty poor sides in anything but their home conditions. Yes Stokes innings saved England in the last series but Smiths freakish form and Andersons injury were the only reasons it got to that point. If the injury had happened to Australias talisman instead of Englands the series would have been comfortably Englands.

Australia travel to pakistan next which will give them a good challenge considering their recent form in Asia and England go to West Indies who gave us a good hiding last time out there. Im expecting both away sides to lose.

Id like to see England pick their Best XI for each and every test match moving forward. The selction/rotation policy during this series has been village at best and Silverwood will be lucky to keep his job on those calls alone.

And please no more Woakes anywhere that doesnt use the Duke ball, absolutely toothless with the Kookaburra.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1129 on: January 16, 2022, 03:36:09 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on January 16, 2022, 12:35:21 PM
Smith singlehandedly kept Australia in that series though, one world class player doing extraordinary things doesn't mean you've got a good team.
Smith averaged over 100 in consecutive Ashes series - 2017-18 at home and 2019 in England. He’s that good that he could carry his team.
For all the hype about Root he didn’t show he can emulate what Smith did previously in this series did he?
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1130 on: January 16, 2022, 03:37:10 PM »
Quote from: Devondumpling00 on January 16, 2022, 12:10:13 PM
It took a once in a lifetime innings from Stokes to make that 2-2 and not 3-1. Let’s not forget too quickly.
Pretty sure if Joel Wilson wasn’t blind we would’ve won in Leeds…
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1131 on: January 16, 2022, 03:38:32 PM »
Quote from: alba caerulea on January 16, 2022, 02:04:49 PM
The reality is that these are 2 pretty poor sides in anything but their home conditions. Yes Stokes innings saved England in the last series but Smiths freakish form and Andersons injury were the only reasons it got to that point. If the injury had happened to Australias talisman instead of Englands the series would have been comfortably Englands.

Australia travel to pakistan next which will give them a good challenge considering their recent form in Asia and England go to West Indies who gave us a good hiding last time out there. Im expecting both away sides to lose.

Id like to see England pick their Best XI for each and every test match moving forward. The selction/rotation policy during this series has been village at best and Silverwood will be lucky to keep his job on those calls alone.

And please no more Woakes anywhere that doesnt use the Duke ball, absolutely toothless with the Kookaburra.
Smith getting injured was why England got a draw in 2019.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1132 on: January 16, 2022, 04:22:17 PM »
Quote from: Thor Odin’s Son on January 16, 2022, 03:38:32 PM
Smith getting injured was why England got a draw in 2019.

Smith missed 1 match out of 5.

Anderson got injured on the morning of the first Test and didnt bowl again in the series.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1133 on: January 16, 2022, 04:28:30 PM »
Quote from: alba caerulea on January 16, 2022, 04:22:17 PM
Smith missed 1 match out of 5.

Anderson got injured on the morning of the first Test and didnt bowl again in the series.

Moreover, Australia got an in game replacement for Smith, who went a long way to saving the test for them, whereas England had to play 14/15 sessions of a test a strike bowler light. 
« Last Edit: January 16, 2022, 04:31:15 PM by Manormanic »
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1134 on: January 16, 2022, 04:30:08 PM »
My player ratings for the series...

Burns 3
Hameed 1
Crawley 6
Malan 5
Root 7
Bairstow 7
Buttler 3
Woakes 5
Billings 5
Pope 2
Woakes 5
Anderson 7
Broad 8
Robinson 6
Wood 9
Leach 5

Harris 5
Warner 7
Labuschagne 9
Khawaja 9
Smith 6
Head 10
Carey 6
Green 9
Hazelwood 7
Cummins 10
Starc 9
Boland 10
Lyon 7
Richardson 7
Neser 6

Edit: Took one off Lyon because I can't stand the guy 😂
« Last Edit: January 16, 2022, 04:34:08 PM by billyb »
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1135 on: January 16, 2022, 04:33:38 PM »
Quote from: billyb on January 16, 2022, 04:30:08 PM
My player ratings for the series...

Burns 3
Hameed 1
Crawley 6
Malan 5
Root 7
Bairstow 7
Buttler 3
Woakes 5
Billings 5
Pope 2
Woakes 5
Anderson 7
Broad 8
Robinson 6
Wood 9
Leach 5

Harris 5
Warner 7
Labuschagne 9
Khawaja 9
Smith 6
Head 10
Carey 6
Green 9
Hazelwood 7
Cummins 10
Starc 9
Boland 10
Lyon 8
Richardson 7
Neser 6

Generous to Burns (sorry, 1 would have been too generous) Woakes and Wood, probably a tad kind to Green too.

A little hard on Bairstow in the circumstances.  And definitely hard on Boland, he was way better than a 10!
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1136 on: January 16, 2022, 04:35:46 PM »
Boland was unreal, wasn't he? Looked like he could take a wicket every ball, and he was so consistent. Had a bit of McGrath about him.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1137 on: January 16, 2022, 04:38:32 PM »
Quote from: Thor Odin’s Son on January 16, 2022, 03:36:09 PM
Smith averaged over 100 in consecutive Ashes series - 2017-18 at home and 2019 in England. He’s that good that he could carry his team.
For all the hype about Root he didn’t show he can emulate what Smith did previously in this series did he?

Not sure anyone will have a run of Ashes form like Smith's again for a long long time. He just looked unstoppable.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1138 on: January 16, 2022, 05:30:06 PM »
Quote from: billyb on January 16, 2022, 04:30:08 PM
My player ratings for the series...

Burns 3
Hameed 1
Crawley 6
Malan 5
Root 7
Bairstow 7
Buttler 3
Woakes 5
Billings 5
Pope 2
Woakes 5
Anderson 7
Broad 8
Robinson 6
Wood 9
Leach 5

Harris 5
Warner 7
Labuschagne 9
Khawaja 9
Smith 6
Head 10
Carey 6
Green 9
Hazelwood 7
Cummins 10
Starc 9
Boland 10
Lyon 7
Richardson 7
Neser 6

Edit: Took one off Lyon because I can't stand the guy 😂

Some very very generous scores for some England players. I would put some in minus numbers!

The Aussies look about right, although maybe Harris and Carey are both 1 too high.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1139 on: January 16, 2022, 05:33:57 PM »
Quote from: alba caerulea on January 16, 2022, 02:04:49 PM
The reality is that these are 2 pretty poor sides in anything but their home conditions. Yes Stokes innings saved England in the last series but Smiths freakish form and Andersons injury were the only reasons it got to that point. If the injury had happened to Australias talisman instead of Englands the series would have been comfortably Englands.

Australia travel to pakistan next which will give them a good challenge considering their recent form in Asia and England go to West Indies who gave us a good hiding last time out there. Im expecting both away sides to lose.

Id like to see England pick their Best XI for each and every test match moving forward. The selction/rotation policy during this series has been village at best and Silverwood will be lucky to keep his job on those calls alone.

And please no more Woakes anywhere that doesnt use the Duke ball, absolutely toothless with the Kookaburra.

They have no choice but to rotate the bowling. Broad, Anderson and Wood are all incapable (through age and/or injury) of playing a full series. This pretty much screws England before you even account for the awful batting since to make this work they need 6-8 test calibre bowlers and they have 3.
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