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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1155 on: January 17, 2022, 04:27:54 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on January 17, 2022, 03:54:32 PM
That is harrowing to read. 2 years of talking about how prepared they were going to be for this series and that's what  they come up with.

There are some players who should be out of the test picture but how on earth can they move forward without some management heads rolling ASAP?

You said it Jimbo.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1156 on: January 17, 2022, 04:59:20 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on January 17, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
A measly 30 Test caps!  :o

I meant in context to others present.

Anderson, Broad, Woakes, Buttler, Bairstow, Stokes, Root all with more caps. Why did they expect Burns to address the room?
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« Reply #1157 on: January 17, 2022, 05:22:25 PM »
And to be frank he hadn’t thought out the first ball he was going to receive? Well so what….

Maybe he doesn’t think about it till the morning over the game, 10 mins before start, after his breakfast?

Maybe he doesn’t want to pre judge his movements

Maybe…..well it could be anything.

You can see what is going to happen here a mile off.. Silverwood does the chief selector and coaches job in one and saves the EVB paying two salaries, can’t do both jobs and gets fired because of the 4 nil score line.

Harrison and Giles parade a new coach before the Windies tour and we are back on track.

Only we are not because having a fall guy never sorts anything out long term. It’s absolutely appaling
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1158 on: January 17, 2022, 06:27:43 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on January 17, 2022, 03:54:32 PM
That is harrowing to read. 2 years of talking about how prepared they were going to be for this series and that's what  they come up with.

There are some players who should be out of the test picture but how on earth can they move forward without some management heads rolling ASAP?

Talk about blow the lid off it! There is some absolutely mental stuff there and it's quite staggering even after knowing how bad we were.

I really don't see how the management keep their jobs now this is in the public domain.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1159 on: January 17, 2022, 07:14:46 PM »
I've just listened to the Silverwood interview. What he is saying it is exactly right.

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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1160 on: January 17, 2022, 07:16:45 PM »
Quote from: Devondumpling00 on January 17, 2022, 04:59:20 PM
I meant in context to others present.



Anderson, Broad, Woakes, Buttler, Bairstow, Stokes, Root all with more caps. Why did they expect Burns to address the room?

Because he's a 31 year-old Test cricketer with 30 caps?

No-one said it should be him speaking instead of anyone else.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1161 on: January 17, 2022, 07:22:15 PM »
Quote from: Thor Odin’s Son on January 16, 2022, 05:48:29 PM
1 and a half tests…
Had Smith not got injured at lords we would’ve won there as well. Smith would’ve got 200.

Had he not been carried off when he was, there was a decent chance of bloodshed the way Archer was all over him. 
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1162 on: January 17, 2022, 07:40:02 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on January 17, 2022, 07:22:15 PM
Had he not been carried off when he was, there was a decent chance of bloodshed the way Archer was all over him.
I’d like to remind you Jofra Archer has dismissed Steve Smith zero times in Test cricket. And considering how Archer’s career is panning out, hitting Smith is most likely his only noteworthy Test achievement…
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1163 on: January 17, 2022, 08:53:26 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on January 17, 2022, 07:14:46 PM
I've just listened to the Silverwood interview. What he is saying it is exactly right.

I presume you are talking about his interview with Agnew.

He is just saying the obvious, what everyone else is saying. It doesn't mean he shouldn't get the boot for what has been a shocking tour from a management point of view.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1164 on: January 17, 2022, 09:05:54 PM »
Quote from: Thor Odin’s Son on January 17, 2022, 07:40:02 PM
I’d like to remind you Jofra Archer has dismissed Steve Smith zero times in Test cricket. And considering how Archer’s career is panning out, hitting Smith is most likely his only noteworthy Test achievement…

Bit early to say that.  Whereas we can all say with confidence that cheating then crying like a five year old when he was caught out will undoubtedly be Smith's.  :o

Notwithstanding which, Smith has been heading ever closer to bunnydom against the short ball since that Lords test. 
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« Reply #1165 on: January 17, 2022, 10:03:29 PM »
Silverwood can't be blamed for the small percentage of the population who play cricket, nor for the narrowness of its socio-economic or ethnic background.  He can't be blamed for the poor standard of the domestic game which is wholly inadequate as the step below the international game.

What Silverwood does take responsibility for is the planning for this tour and the management of our playing resources across a 5 match series.  In that respect, Silverwood's performance has been an abject failure.  It is inconceivable that he can remain in post
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1166 on: January 18, 2022, 06:16:00 AM »
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1167 on: January 18, 2022, 08:56:53 AM »
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ashes-ecb-investigates-after-joe-root-and-james-anderson-are-seen-among-intoxicated-people-in-hobart-team-hotel-1297388

Hahhahaha!  Pretty harmless stuff I guess, but it just adds to the shambles of the tour from an English PR perspective!
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1168 on: January 18, 2022, 11:12:05 AM »
They're really trying to make something out of nothing on this one
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1169 on: January 18, 2022, 11:57:11 AM »
Quote from: rickjames on January 18, 2022, 11:12:05 AM
They're really trying to make something out of nothing on this one

Yeah absolutely, post series drink happens all the time. As long as no COVID rules were broken it’s just a pointless story.

Unfortunately it will just get used against the players and coach when the real problems are higher up
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