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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1185 on: January 19, 2022, 08:34:05 PM »

I know it’s not really your point, but Hameed didn’t manage to exchange that goodwill for many runs 😬
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« Reply #1186 on: January 19, 2022, 08:39:17 PM »

I know it’s not really your point, but Hameed didn’t manage to exchange that goodwill for many runs 😬

You’re right and a full season for Notts may work for him.
He is lacking a back foot game so Australia was going to be tough.

As opposed to Crawley who had loads of low scores but looking ok when he got in.

I don’t think selection of the batsmen has ever been harder to do myself.

Us armchair selectors and those who do it for a living included  :)
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« Reply #1187 on: January 19, 2022, 09:14:38 PM »

I thought you might. :D

Averaged 39 last season playing a lot of innings at Durham which is never a particularly easy place to bat. Did you want offer an informed opinion of your own or just smarmy nothings?
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« Reply #1188 on: January 19, 2022, 09:31:55 PM »

All I want this year from the test team is for them to show that they are fighting and improving. I want to see top-order players scoring hundreds that aren't called Joe Root. More hundreds. I want to see the team batting for a long time and scoring 300+ in 70% of innings.

So non-Root hundreds and 300+. That is the starting point for our test side, I think. Who is capable of that?
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« Reply #1189 on: January 19, 2022, 09:45:07 PM »

Look, Lees wouldn't be the worst call. He's solid, has overcome tough times in his career, is decent in the slips. They need to try someone new, and the only other contenders are Yates and Rhodes (unless they go left field and try Vince there) so...
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« Reply #1190 on: January 19, 2022, 10:11:43 PM »

Don’t forget jake Libby, scored a lot of runs consistently over the last couple of seasons
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1191 on: January 19, 2022, 10:18:44 PM »

Don’t forget jake Libby, scored a lot of runs consistently over the last couple of seasons

I reckon Libby will end up as another Northeast or Hildreth who fans will think was unlucky not to get a crack. Not being on the Lions tour to Aus will count against him in the short term.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1192 on: January 20, 2022, 06:15:30 AM »

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-20/is-english-crickets-class-problem-behind-their-ashes-defeat/100762798

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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1193 on: January 20, 2022, 06:57:40 AM »

Not sure if the admins want to start a new thread but the Women's Ashes start in just over an hour.

With them playing the multi-format again they start with 3 x T20's, then a Test, then 3 x ODI's . 2 pts available for the white ball games and 4pts for the test.

Australia are obviously favourites but we are capable of a surprise and the Aussies have just lost Beth Mooney to injury which is a massive blow.

Also if the ladies win it, it will heap a whole load of pressure on the ECB about how bad the men were.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1194 on: January 20, 2022, 09:31:34 AM »

Not sure if the admins want to start a new thread but the Women's Ashes start in just over an hour.

With them playing the multi-format again they start with 3 x T20's, then a Test, then 3 x ODI's . 2 pts available for the white ball games and 4pts for the test.

Australia are obviously favourites but we are capable of a surprise and the Aussies have just lost Beth Mooney to injury which is a massive blow.

Also if the ladies win it, it will heap a whole load of pressure on the ECB about how bad the men were.

The way the women’s ashes are structured would heavily favour our men’s team with ODI and T20 involved. Albeit the point system favours the winner of the single test match.

What would be interesting is if you had to pick one 12 man squad to play all of the formats in a series.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1195 on: January 20, 2022, 10:01:52 AM »

The way the women’s ashes are structured would heavily favour our men’s team with ODI and T20 involved. Albeit the point system favours the winner of the single test match.

What would be interesting is if you had to pick one 12 man squad to play all of the formats in a series.

Interesting thought, something like:

Batters

Root
Bairstow (WK backup)
Crawley
Foakes (WK)
Buttler

Allrounders

Woakes
Stokes
Ali

Bowlers

Archer
Stone
Rashid
Wood

Think that gives roughly the best coverage for all three formats from current England players if we pretend they're all fit?
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1196 on: January 20, 2022, 11:44:43 AM »

Interesting thought, something like:

Batters

Root
Bairstow (WK backup)
Crawley
Foakes (WK)
Buttler

Allrounders

Woakes
Stokes
Ali

Bowlers

Archer
Stone
Rashid
Wood

Think that gives roughly the best coverage for all three formats from current England players if we pretend they're all fit?

I think it’s really a interesting thought. The test match might end inside 2 days 😂
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #1197 on: January 20, 2022, 12:07:15 PM »

I think it’s really a interesting thought. The test match might end inside 2 days 😂

Doesn't matter if you smash them 5-0 in the white ball though 😂
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« Reply #1198 on: January 20, 2022, 12:28:00 PM »

Doesn't matter if you smash them 5-0 in the white ball though 😂

Absolutely not!

The women’s ashes structure could be what’s seen in the men’s if the world test championship and one day championship don’t take off.

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« Reply #1199 on: January 20, 2022, 12:36:45 PM »

Absolutely not!

The women’s ashes structure could be what’s seen in the men’s if the world test championship and one day championship don’t take off.

Don't know how I feel about it.

Ideal scenario it revitalises some slightly more tired series and produces a bit more of a narrative than "lost the test series, won the ODIs, drew the T20s".

But then you see with the women's game that the test cricket ends up being marginalised a bit.

Would be interesting to see, applying the current points setup from the women's Ashes, how the men's Ashes series of recent years would have gone.
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