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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2021, 05:09:48 AM »

I agree that 1-2 guys playing FC cricket in a squad is probably of benifit, but the likes of Italy often end up fielding a side were barely 2-3 of the 11 actually play their cricket in Italy, and if Australia was open for travel there would be even fewer this time too. So it’s a pretty short term fix and massively favourable to countries that give out passports easier and have had emigration to strong cricket countries. None of which is really related to the health of the game domestically in that country.

I get why teams do it, I just don’t really agree with or like it.

Same goes for the likes of Oman or Netherlands at the WC, I’d far rather see a side with mostly home produced players there and gaining from the experience.

I feel that the ICC funding for national side performance, for associates anyway, should have a heavy weighting on the number of home grown players in the side. Something that reflects the strength of cricket in that country, and rewards work to develop it. Rather than just writing a cheque to some bloke playing grade cricket who has an inherited dual nationality.

My kids have British passports, if they grow up to be good biathletes or cross country skiers they could probably represent the U.K., but they’re no more British than our neighbours, speak no English, and would be no reflection on the work being done within the British skiing community.

It’s just an opinion, but I’ll die on this particular hill if need be 🤣
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2021, 05:59:49 AM »

It was a shame to see the volume of imports in the Namibia-NL game, the odd guy qualifying seems fair enough but when it's nearly half a team it makes a bit of a mockery.

I actually will soon qualify to play for Turkey, who are ranked 81st in the world at T20I. I'm pretty sure I'm more than good enough to make their team and potentially even do ok on the field, but they currently field a full team of actual Turkish players. Wouldn't really blame them if they told me to get lost!
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2021, 06:26:16 AM »

It was a shame to see the volume of imports in the Namibia-NL game, the odd guy qualifying seems fair enough but when it's nearly half a team it makes a bit of a mockery.

I actually will soon qualify to play for Turkey, who are ranked 81st in the world at T20I. I'm pretty sure I'm more than good enough to make their team and potentially even do ok on the field, but they currently field a full team of actual Turkish players. Wouldn't really blame them if they told me to get lost!
The Namibians aren’t too bad are they, a couple of them are maybe more South African than Namibian, but it’s a touch more blurred lines when it’s a neighbouring land. The Dutch side on the other hand, I reckon only 2/3 of them had even played cricket in the Netherlands before turning pro.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2021, 08:52:57 AM »

all of the lower tier nations have to import players to increase the quality, just think where englands rugby/cricket teams would be without southern hemisphere players.  its a matter of time before football in this country catches up does the same thing.

i see it as a good thing that older players can help other countries develop their game, as long as it doesnt become 4 players and 7 fielders.

Ireland look like they have gone backwards in the last few years, i would have expected them to be fairly dominant but apart from a few moments they are no better than the rest.

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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2021, 09:03:40 AM »

Big match today .... Scot vs Oman! I think BD will definitely beat PNG, no contest there. But if Oman beat Scot then all 3 teams will be on 4 points. Oman has a better NRR than BD right now so definitely BD need to win big.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2021, 10:13:38 AM »

Big match today .... Scot vs Oman! I think BD will definitely beat PNG, no contest there. But if Oman beat Scot then all 3 teams will be on 4 points. Oman has a better NRR than BD right now so definitely BD need to win big.

Unless Bangladesh scrape home against PNG then they'll be going through on NRR. Scotland's NRR isn't great so if they don't beat Oman most likely result is Bangladesh and Oman going through.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2021, 11:56:02 AM »

Too much for Papua New Guinea you feel
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2021, 12:04:01 PM »

Those last few balls just killed any momentum. Take something special for PNG to get close now.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2021, 03:29:21 PM »

all of the lower tier nations have to import players to increase the quality, just think where englands rugby/cricket teams would be without southern hemisphere players.  its a matter of time before football in this country catches up does the same thing.

i see it as a good thing that older players can help other countries develop their game, as long as it doesnt become 4 players and 7 fielders.

Ireland look like they have gone backwards in the last few years, i would have expected them to be fairly dominant but apart from a few moments they are no better than the rest.

Have to?
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2021, 03:35:09 PM »

Oman showing their inexperience here. The winner will probably get thrashed by the big teams anyways but atleast this makes for entertaining viewing.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2021, 03:46:29 PM »

Oman showing their inexperience here. The winner will probably get thrashed by the big teams anyways but atleast this makes for entertaining viewing.

Think Scotland have the ingredients to cause an upset if they can bring this one home.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2021, 04:08:43 PM »

Don't see them beating India, Pakistan or New Zealand. Maybe Afghanistan and Sri Lanka...
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2021, 07:35:59 PM »

Don't see them beating India, Pakistan or New Zealand. Maybe Afghanistan and Sri Lanka...
Mostly likely Namibia or Ireland rather than SL, unless they chuck it ba the Dutch to get in that group
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2021, 09:30:14 PM »

Don't see them beating India, Pakistan or New Zealand. Maybe Afghanistan and Sri Lanka...

They've beaten Afghanistan before, MacLeod took Rashid Khan apart and I'd back them to beat either Ireland or Namibia on forn. Agree India and NZ are probably a step too far, Pakistan love an off day though...
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2021, 09:53:07 PM »

Also didn’t see us beating Bangladesh, and certainly not in these conditions.
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