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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #45 on: October 22, 2021, 08:09:20 AM »
Quote from: Kulli on October 21, 2021, 09:53:07 PM
Also didn’t see us beating Bangladesh, and certainly not in these conditions.

Fun fact is that we've never played them in a T20I.

Still backing us to top the group comfortably, there isn't one opposition bowler I think the England top order fears. Then again, they could all throw a spanner in the works by opening with left arm spin...
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #46 on: October 22, 2021, 09:01:47 AM »
I think the big dilemma for England with Stokes and Curran out is if they go batting or bowling heavy.

I imagine the choice is Malan at 3 and Mo at 7, or Mo at 3 and Willey/Woakes at 7.

Neither of them are really good enough for 7 (in T20) especially with Morgan batting in binary, but then Mo/Livingstone as bowlers 5/6 is a bit sub optimal too.

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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #47 on: October 22, 2021, 09:28:14 AM »
Bairstow 3 isn't a terrible shout either. Buttler, Roy, Bairstow, Mo, Livingstone, Morgan isn't a bad top 6. Jordan, Woakes and Rashid can all hold a bat too.

Edit: Just tried to work out my ideal team from the squad and best balance I've come up with was

Buttler
Roy
Livingstone
Bairstow
Moeen
Morgan/Billings
Willey
Jordan/Woakes
Wood
Rashid
Mills

Jordan or Woakes depending on conditions, Billings in for Morgan if his poor run continues.

Willey is a perfectly good 7 in T20, gives you two left armers, two proper quicks, three spin options, only one absolute rabbit with the bat. Struggling to balance it better.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2021, 11:49:28 AM »
Livingston won’t bat 3, and pretty sure they’re leave YJB at 4, he’s their best player of spin, but I don’t think you’re far off the 11. Willey and Woakes is a bold
Call as they’re both so Start of innings specialists, but as the current game has shown, the PP is massive in these conditions.

Willey is a good T20 bat at domestic level, but his record at international level is sketchy at best.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2021, 12:27:48 PM »
Yeah Livingstone looks pencilled in as more of a finisher, not convinced by Malan at 3 though.

Woakes/Willey I'm going purely on the impact that bowlers who can move the ball early seem to have had in similar conditions in the qualifiers.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #50 on: October 22, 2021, 01:31:29 PM »
Wow! Kudos to Namibia! Ireland really need to introspect after this loss. This is what importing players brings to the associate teams. News of qualifying will only add to increasing the popularity of the game in the country.

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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #51 on: October 22, 2021, 03:05:37 PM »
Quote from: mo_town on October 22, 2021, 01:31:29 PM
Wow! Kudos to Namibia! Ireland really need to introspect after this loss. This is what importing players brings to the associate teams. News of qualifying will only add to increasing the popularity of the game in the country.

Are you referring to Namibia's success or Ireland's failure, seeing as both have brought in key players who weren't products of their country's development system?
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #52 on: October 22, 2021, 03:13:20 PM »
It hasn’t exactly worked for the Dutch…

Think only Seelar and De Leede were Dutch ‘produced’.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2021, 03:14:22 PM »
Talk about a horror show
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2021, 03:15:38 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on October 22, 2021, 12:27:48 PM
Yeah Livingstone looks pencilled in as more of a finisher, not convinced by Malan at 3 though.

Woakes/Willey I'm going purely on the impact that bowlers who can move the ball early seem to have had in similar conditions in the qualifiers.

Yeah, I’d be erring on bowling heavy and Mo at 3 for now.

Willey abs Woakes probably play at Sharjah anyway, the PP is hugely important there as scoring after that looks like very hard work. The Irish made 60 off that and 70 off the rest.

Dutch made 37 off the PP and 7 off the rest, but that’s maybe a bit of an anomaly 🤣
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2021, 09:35:09 AM »
England Vs West Indies...and so the wishful thinking begins again 🤞

Hoping for a great game.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2021, 09:43:00 AM »
Not sure about that Australian team, guess the talk is about Inglis missing out
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #57 on: October 23, 2021, 10:13:18 AM »
Absolute peach from Hazlewood
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #58 on: October 23, 2021, 10:21:56 AM »
QDK... Mate! That was crap
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2021, 10:24:45 AM »
The fact he's looking at that ball, and doing nothing at all. Jesus.
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