Topic: Alec Stewart the new England coach?? Nope its Colly (for nowl (Read 24301 times)

Duck Duck Mongoose · « **Reply #30 on:** February 05, 2022, 10:08:49 AM »

No idea why I've not seen Collingwood's name mentioned anywhere. The man has a complete understanding of modern multi-format cricket, experience as a top level coach, and is a proven leader with integrity.

Jimbo · « **Reply #31 on:** February 05, 2022, 10:33:14 AM »

Quote from: Duck Duck Mongoose on February 05, 2022, 10:08:49 AM

No idea why I've not seen Collingwood's name mentioned anywhere. The man has a complete understanding of modern multi-format cricket, experience as a top level coach, and is a proven leader with integrity.

Has he actually had any real success as a coach so far? Don't doubt he's got the raw ingredients but is he experienced enough?

Duck Duck Mongoose · « **Reply #32 on:** February 05, 2022, 10:40:08 AM »

He's got a lot more experience of the modern game, and of the pitfalls involved in constantly switching between formats, than anyone of Stewart's generation. I think that's pretty crucial expertise for what England need in order to rebuild.

Duck Duck Mongoose · « **Reply #33 on:** February 05, 2022, 10:41:47 AM »

Plus he's been an elite level coach (admitedly not in the top job) for a few years now.

Jimbo · « **Reply #34 on:** February 05, 2022, 10:46:23 AM »

Quote from: Duck Duck Mongoose on February 05, 2022, 10:41:47 AM

Plus he's been an elite level coach (admitedly not in the top job) for a few years now.

Think that would be my concern, it's a different kind of pressure.

Duck Duck Mongoose · « **Reply #35 on:** February 05, 2022, 10:56:27 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo on February 05, 2022, 10:46:23 AM

Think that would be my concern, it's a different kind of pressure.

It's a fair concern about the heat and pressure but all that's ever done to Brigadier Block in the past is turn him into a diamond

ppccopener · « **Reply #36 on:** February 05, 2022, 12:15:53 PM »

I�m glad Collingwood is part of the set up and hope he stays-we need more of his type�making the most of your talent.

Langer I think Strauss knows well but as others have mentioned can that type of man management work nowadays.

He achieved his remit with Australia and then some- over fifty percent win ratio, a World Cup 2020 and a thumping Ashes win against us.

The coach is judged on results and you can see why ex players like Pointing have hammered CA this morning.

Tough call for England I think, the right coach is key.

Thor Odin�s Son · « **Reply #37 on:** February 05, 2022, 12:29:38 PM »

Many snakes in the grass in the Australian setup�Finch and Cummins turning on JL. All time low two faced behaviour.
Still think JL would be �loathed� the coach the Poms.

ppccopener · « **Reply #38 on:** February 05, 2022, 01:09:48 PM »

Quote from: Thor Odin�s Son on February 05, 2022, 12:29:38 PM

Many snakes in the grass in the Australian setup�Finch and Cummins turning on JL. All time low two faced behaviour.
Still think JL would be �loathed� the coach the Poms.

I�ve watched and admired Langer since he started playing. I suspect he coaches as he played but I�m sure you are right

Bungle · « **Reply #39 on:** February 05, 2022, 01:17:04 PM »

Quote from: Thor Odin�s Son on February 05, 2022, 12:29:38 PM

Many snakes in the grass in the Australian setup�Finch and Cummins turning on JL. All time low two faced behaviour.
Still think JL would be �loathed� the coach the Poms.

What's the TLDR on the Aussie's situation right now?

SD · « **Reply #40 on:** February 05, 2022, 02:24:29 PM »

The current set up looks too cosy to me. You can't have international players not being up to the necessary fitness standards for the start of a tour and not behaving professionally with their diet and alcohol consumption whilst on tour.

I accept that this can't be viewed solely as an issue for the international side. The standards of fitness and professionalism in the county game are diabolical. Players get into a terrible culture before coming into the England set up due to the poor standards in the domestic game. That can't excuse though failing to run the national set up properly.

Langer appears a high risk option that won't go down well with everyone but seems to be exactly what is needed to get the red ball side back on track

Thor Odin�s Son · « **Reply #41 on:** February 05, 2022, 11:39:56 PM »

Quote from: Bungle on February 05, 2022, 01:17:04 PM

What's the TLDR on the Aussie's situation right now?

Player power > coach power.

If a coach rubs up the players the wrong way, players will threaten to quit the national side. Most of the Aussie big names would get millions playing franchise cricket.

Heck I�m sure plenty of them are IPL rich.

There�s some blow back from JL�s issues with Maxwell as well. Maxi is pretty popular in the setup. Finch and Maxwell are BFFs�.

Buzz · « **Reply #42 on:** February 06, 2022, 07:55:43 AM »

Collingwood and Dawson will lead the team to the Windies apparently

Buzz · « **Reply #43 on:** February 07, 2022, 11:08:20 AM »

Collingwood confirmed as interim (already on the ECB books so the best value option 😂)
Squad to be announced tomorrow pm.
Lots of opportunities for first class runs between now and then.

Butterfingerz · « **Reply #44 on:** February 07, 2022, 05:56:34 PM »

I think this is a good appointment in the short term. Hes done well with the 1 day squad before if memory serves me correctly. Would he be my choice on a full time basis...no.

I think Justin Langer is just what is needed to get the best out of some of the guys and I'd bring in Matthew Hayden to assist as well, two guys who have acheived everything in the game.

If we arent able to get these them you gotta go for Ricky Ponting, another hard nosed guy who tells it like it is.

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