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[procricket]

tom with your goose you should know the stuff about this somebody showed me on my level 2 course when referring to buying bats for young players

[norbs]

You mention both mass and volume, which are you talking about as both are different?

an engineer in the making.... sorry mate Mass

[norbs]

it a know fact that a lighter bat thrown quicker has a greater force potential than a heavier bat thrown at the same pressure but slower due to weight.

you are assuming you swing both bat weights at the same speed?

[procricket]

no on a drop test only the heavier bat slows it's motion on the up and down swing if the same muscle strength was used.

[procricket]

i think the best way of describing it is when a lot of Pakistan pro's come across and use big 3lb bats in league cricket as my old one did he always said he does not need bat speed on club wickets in England unless the other pro was genuine quick he just said he could miss hit a ball with a bigger bat at a slower pace and it would fly over the ropes were if he brought his bat from Pakistan which was a 2lb 6oz  pick he would not hit it off the square.

as being my point i use different weight depending on the type of wicket

[norbs]

no on a drop test only the heavier bat slows it's motion on the up and down swing if the same muscle strength was used.

drop test i.e a ball droped from a predefined height?

[procricket]

no the bat moves from a predefined way over 300 times to also take into muscle fatigue and other factors.

bit to technical for me as a non batmaker or anything i have only seen it done at a science thing.

[procricket]

norb's are you related to the other norb's

[Watsontotty]

Both for me are important to me, i like a good size bat in a light weight which gives enough bat speed for me to be comfortable. I don't like a smaller shape which offers better bat speed as i find its less suitable to my game and i also find smaller shapes can be less forgiving.

Same Norbs id say ?

[Howzat]

an engineer in the making.... sorry mate Mass

Ill carry on trying to be smart then... I would guess that there is a point where you have the perfect mass that allows a perfect amount of bat speed? If you tested loads, would make a bell shaped curve on the graph?!

[procricket]

you would have thought so but i wonder what mad science goes into some players getting the maximum weight for the minimum muscle fatigue

maybe called low density cleft?

i think everybody is different like bat shapes

i would like to understand more about tom's (goose) and the science behind his bat's

[norbs]

Yep it is me but I can banter more on this account


Ok we digress please continue... not going to say if there is theoretical or pratical answer to this question as it is a good question for the time being

[norbs]

i would like to understand more about tom's (goose) and the science behind his bat's

here you go http://www.mongoosecricket.com/skin/frontend/default/default/images/pages/deep_science.pdf

[procricket]

cheers Andy

[Buzz]

In my view i'd want a bigger bat for hitting slow bowling and a lighter bat for quick bowling. So you would have more momentum to hit the spinners further and more control of the bat for the quick stuff. Mark ramps and adam holioak both use heavier bats for t20 for more momentum.