Topic: England vs West Indies series.... (Read 25933 times)

potzy248 · « **Reply #180 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:23:20 PM »

What's your guys thoughts on Lees debut series?

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #181 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:36:43 PM »

I read an article that with the lack of potential captains that Billings was a possible option, Think Foakes has done ok but would have liked some More runs on pretty flat decks

Massive fan of Crawley but he is certainly loose early on and this selection policy is just mental I�m afraid

ppccopener · « **Reply #182 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:42:25 PM »

I�m not sure Root will survive a series loss here but you got to ask if changing the Captain, the openers,the spinner etc will have any effect on improving the team. I don�t think it will.

We have tried so many players in the last 3 years it�s nearly back in the 80�s merry go round.

We might as well stick with Root and Crawley Lees Lawrence Foakes and the bowlers and hope they get better.

Leaving out Anderson and Broad was a mistake, at least one should of toured but it�s the batting again.
We cannot get away from it, we crumble when the pressure is on.

Malan into the squad is the only thing I can think of to shore it up a bit

Devondumpling00 · « **Reply #183 on:** March 26, 2022, 10:58:27 PM »

By the time the first test vs New Zealand rolls around, there will have been about 3 county championship games already played.

The selection policy should be simple, pick whoever is in the best form at that point. Almost every spot is up for grabs, I can't see how this idea would fare any worse.

six and out · « **Reply #184 on:** March 27, 2022, 06:17:51 AM »

Interesting article on Roots captaincy, lays into him quite alot, but fairly I think.

Gives options of Stokes, Broad and left field choice of Morgan (the Brearley type appointment).

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/mar/26/englands-big-reset-is-undermined-by-joe-root-the-third-class-captain

jonny77 · « **Reply #185 on:** March 27, 2022, 07:09:09 AM »

Quote from: six and out on March 27, 2022, 06:17:51 AM

Interesting article on Roots captaincy, lays into him quite alot, but fairly I think.

Gives options of Stokes, Broad and left field choice of Morgan (the Brearley type appointment).

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/mar/26/englands-big-reset-is-undermined-by-joe-root-the-third-class-captain

Jeez, doesn't hold back here! Don't disagree that Root isn't the best skipper but think it's a little ott. Bringing back a 35 year old Morgan just to captain isn't the answer. It just highlights the lack of options.

thegowerwaft · « **Reply #186 on:** March 27, 2022, 08:41:06 AM »

Quote from: ppccopener on March 26, 2022, 10:42:25 PM

I�m not sure Root will survive a series loss here but you got to ask if changing the Captain, the openers,the spinner etc will have any effect on improving the team. I don�t think it will.

We have tried so many players in the last 3 years it�s nearly back in the 80�s merry go round.

We might as well stick with Root and Crawley Lees Lawrence Foakes and the bowlers and hope they get better.

Leaving out Anderson and Broad was a mistake, at least one should of toured but it�s the batting again.
We cannot get away from it, we crumble when the pressure is on.

Malan into the squad is the only thing I can think of to shore it up a bit

Totally agree - the batting has been really exposed. Just watched the highlights. Some of the shots were very very village.

Bungle · « **Reply #187 on:** March 27, 2022, 03:35:13 PM »

This is just so poor. If Leach & Mahmood didn't push the score on by nearly 100 then the totals are just completely embarrassing. Lees the only other player to do a decent job, especially considering everybody else was so bad.

golders · « **Reply #188 on:** March 27, 2022, 05:05:58 PM »

I must not look at the ICC Test rankings; must not look at the test rankings.
The doom and gloom on here is even more depressing than the cricket itself- and I�ve been part of it.

Firstly Well done the Windies- congrats to them.

Is Gary Kirsten still available? Who could it be other than Root or Stokes?
Are there any other skippers well thought of on the county scene?

Surely even Mike Brearley didn�t make his debut as captain though?

Positives:

1.I do still like Crawley despite him being a very hit and miss. I think he can only improve. I do have a soft spot for him because of John Crawley even though they aren�t related!

2. Mahmood wasn�t overbowled.

3. Foakes is still a good gloveman

4. Stokes scored a ton.

5. Mahmood.

6. Parkinson didn�t do badly as a drinks waiter.

7. English summer tests won�t have Vaughan on commentary.

8 Bairstow is back.

9. Great for the future of West Indian cricket

Alvaro · « **Reply #189 on:** March 27, 2022, 10:02:50 PM »

Quote from: potzy248 on March 26, 2022, 10:23:20 PM

What's your guys thoughts on Lees debut series?

A bit Jeet Raval?

Warneymonster · « **Reply #190 on:** March 28, 2022, 09:05:21 AM »

that was a tough last few days to watch, the first 2 tests the windies showed us how to grind and fight for your team but we learnt nothing. The pitch was a tough one with a new ball but surely thats why the openers are where they are, Mayers bowled well but he didnt do anything special and we gifted him wickets.

leaving Broad and Anderson at home was such a poor move, i know they needed to see the next batch of bowlers in action but not all at once. Robinson is a good test bowler but his fitness is going to cost him a lot of cricket if he cant sort it out, and overton isnt close to our first choice team. at least Woakes bowled slightly better in the 3rd test.

At least Root didnt bowl Mahmood into the ground like he to Archer, but im not sure why he didnt get the new ball? looked a lot more dangerous than the others

i wouldnt be shocked if Sibley and Burns walked out to open in the next series, Crawley is way too loose outside off stump and i dont see Lees having any scoring areas as such. occupying the crease is a good start but there was no upping of gears when he was in and i didnt think he looked to rotate the strike at all which would have worked the bowlers a bit harder against a left/right combo.

rant nearly over, what was the point in taking Parkinson & Pope if they were never going to get a game? if i were either of them id be thinking franchise T20 leagues are where im off too, just being used by the ECB to carry drinks

Manormanic · « **Reply #191 on:** March 28, 2022, 11:33:09 AM »

I still don't think England know what their best side looks like; as you say, it was daft to take Parkinson if they were afraid to actually play the lad, and I thought Fisher did enough in his debut Test to deserve a second game ahead of Overton, who is nowhere near Test class.

How many of our best XI do we really know?

Root. But at four rather than three ideally, and preferably not as skipper.

Stokes.

Bairstow. But already there are people talking about giving him the gloves back to get an extra batsman in to the side.

Archer, if fit. IF.

Thereafter, its tough. Our bowling stocks look good on paper with Wood, Stone, Robinson, Mahmood, Fisher, Anderson and Broad on top of Archer and Stokes...but thats a sicknote heavy list. Woakes and Curran if we are desperate.

The batting...eek. Lawrence did well enough at times, but I wonder how he fits in if Crawley moves down to three, which I suspect he will.

edge · « **Reply #192 on:** March 28, 2022, 11:52:47 AM »

Quote from: Warneymonster on March 28, 2022, 09:05:21 AM

rant nearly over, what was the point in taking Parkinson & Pope if they were never going to get a game? if i were either of them id be thinking franchise T20 leagues are where im off too, just being used by the ECB to carry drinks

What are they supposed to do, not take any reserve players?

I think a major problem has been for ages that Root (and his various coaches) doesn't have a clue how he wants the side to play. How do you know your best side when there's so little direction?

Root 4, Stokes should go back to his obvious spot at 6. Rest of the top order's a bit up for grabs, Foakes didn't have a great series either. Suspect it's been a good few weeks for Dom Sibley!

Warneymonster · « **Reply #193 on:** March 28, 2022, 02:11:01 PM »

absolutely agree that reserve players are needed, my concern is that we repeatedly take a guy on tour that little or no chance of playing. what damage is that doing to him and also to Pope? personally i would have gone with Pope over Lawrence but that wouldn't change the fact root should be at 4 and we are missing a test quality opener.

if i were picking a side for the next next against NZ

1. Burns
2. Sibley.
3. Crawley
4. Root
5. Pope
6. Stokes
7. Foakes
8. Robinson or Mahmood
9. Wood
10. Broad
11. Anderson

wouldnt bother with Leach as Root is just as effective and would open up another seamer spot to take the weight off Stokes Shoulders. Dont see a better option as a top 3, but hardly much to choose from.

ppccopener · « **Reply #194 on:** March 28, 2022, 02:31:50 PM »

I�ve said a few times Sibley should not be binned but are we really saying after 3 tests him and Burns come back?

I know we are in a poor position selection wise but that makes no sense

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