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England vs West Indies series....
« on: March 01, 2022, 07:50:59 PM »

Starting this off as the warm up starts today.

You can watch it on the WI You Tube feed below

https://youtu.be/hF5Zv2tse24

At time of writing we are 186-2 . Lees 61 not out, Root and Crawley both got 50's
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2022, 07:59:34 PM »

Could not be better for Lees and the Guardian have Lawrence playing ahead of Pope so if he gets a few it will do him the world of good.

Not sure if there is much between the last batting spot but Lawrence when I’ve seen him does look to take it on when he is in.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2022, 08:50:48 PM »

Yeah seems like Lawrence will be in ahead of Pope. I think Pope probably has more raw talent and potential, but he’s been in such bad form…

Anyone else going to the first test?
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2022, 11:34:08 PM »

Is this series on sky or bt?
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2022, 11:57:58 PM »

Is this series on sky or bt?

BT Sport I believe
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2022, 11:11:41 AM »

Yes BT have the rights for cricket in the WI. Will be taking the host feed and adding studio show back in London as they did for the ashes.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2022, 12:09:13 PM »

Does anyone know what's the next series that Sky have the rights to? Feels like I haven't been able to watch England play for so long.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2022, 12:52:27 PM »

Does anyone know what's the next series that Sky have the rights to? Feels like I haven't been able to watch England play for so long.

I imagine it’ll be the home NZ series in june
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2022, 02:43:07 PM »

Please let this be the start of Lawrence actually getting a decent run in the side.

Really like the composition of this England batting order now, younger guys mixed in among the experienced heads and a better mix of accumulators and stroke-makers.

Lees, while he batted slowly, does seem to have the ability to score round the wicket that Sibley never really showed consistently. Much harder to tie a player down with your field settings if he has that in his locker.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2022, 03:24:47 PM »

Yeah seems like Lawrence will be in ahead of Pope. I think Pope probably has more raw talent and potential, but he’s been in such bad form…

Anyone else going to the first test?

Surely there is no probably about it? Pope's CC numbers are outstanding. Excluding a brief spell in 18/19 when he looked like he'd finally cracked it, he hasn't yet set the world alight in tests although again like so many of our batters I believe he has been a victim of the merry-go-round selection processes. He's batted at 4, 5, 6 and 7 plus he's even been asked to be a keeper for one test. In the short term I do agree with Lawrence being selected ahead of Pope to give him time to rebuild his confidence, I'd like to see Stokes move up to 4 and then Pope/Lawrence bedded in over the next year or two between the experience of Stokes and Bairstow ultimately with the goal of having them bat together at 5 & 6 when Bairstow presumably retires from tests in the next couple of years.
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2022, 05:08:13 PM »

Surely there is no probably about it? Pope's CC numbers are outstanding. Excluding a brief spell in 18/19 when he looked like he'd finally cracked it, he hasn't yet set the world alight in tests although again like so many of our batters I believe he has been a victim of the merry-go-round selection processes. He's batted at 4, 5, 6 and 7 plus he's even been asked to be a keeper for one test. In the short term I do agree with Lawrence being selected ahead of Pope to give him time to rebuild his confidence, I'd like to see Stokes move up to 4 and then Pope/Lawrence bedded in over the next year or two between the experience of Stokes and Bairstow ultimately with the goal of having them bat together at 5 & 6 when Bairstow presumably retires from tests in the next couple of years.

Pope's numbers at the Oval are outstanding. Away from the Oval, he is on a par with plenty of other county batsmen.

He is a very lucky boy to be on this tour given not just his record at Test level but the way he has been getting himself out.

Lawrence may not be as easy on the eye but seems to have much more about him as a person. Looks to me to be someone who could perform the role Collingwood played in the middle order
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2022, 06:31:17 PM »

Pope may of benefitted playing at the Oval but has been outstanding for such a young player.
But for England so far there’s not enough substance, to me he always looks jittery at the crease.

Bit surprised we went first with Lawrence but he deserves a chance- it doesn’t really matter how you score as long as you do, players like Cook and Trott and Collingwood actually were not stylists but got runs and that’s the priority.

Anyway Robinson potential back injury and Wood is unwell. Do Broad and Anderson get on a plane for test 2 or we suck it and see with the newbies?
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2022, 07:28:43 PM »

Surely there is no probably about it? Pope's CC numbers are outstanding. Excluding a brief spell in 18/19 when he looked like he'd finally cracked it, he hasn't yet set the world alight in tests although again like so many of our batters I believe he has been a victim of the merry-go-round selection processes. He's batted at 4, 5, 6 and 7 plus he's even been asked to be a keeper for one test. In the short term I do agree with Lawrence being selected ahead of Pope to give him time to rebuild his confidence, I'd like to see Stokes move up to 4 and then Pope/Lawrence bedded in over the next year or two between the experience of Stokes and Bairstow ultimately with the goal of having them bat together at 5 & 6 when Bairstow presumably retires from tests in the next couple of years.

Well as it’s just an opinion, I think probably is needed! I’m sure plenty of people would argue the other way around…as people have pointed out above his stats are quite skewed when playing at the oval. He’s had some brilliant innings in his career to date, but a lot of low scores too. But a lot of more experienced, older players have also had poor runs of form!
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2022, 10:33:40 PM »

Can we bin Robinson off for now with these fitness issues? Bordering on ridiculous now, particularly when Broad and Anderson were left behind
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Re: England vs West Indies series....
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2022, 11:43:13 PM »

The selection call I fail to understand is leaving Broad and Anderson at home but taking Woakes and Overton.  I fully accept the need to bring new bowlers through, but it seems to me that should be expense of guys who have never looked threatening in overseas conditions.

Not clear how serious the issues with Wood and Robinson are, but i can't imagine Strauss will be relishing the prospect of having to call any bowlers into this tour party
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