Topic: England vs West Indies series.... (Read 25916 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #30 on:** March 08, 2022, 06:30:07 PM »

Foakes is once again looking more of a batsman than our batsman

rickjames · « **Reply #31 on:** March 08, 2022, 07:55:23 PM »

How on fecking Earth did the selectors think Buttler was the better option, ever

ppccopener · « **Reply #32 on:** March 08, 2022, 08:21:40 PM »

Gone now but someone had to stay with Bairstow as he rapidly gets the scoreboard moving.

We at least have some sort of score now.

Bungle · « **Reply #33 on:** March 08, 2022, 08:44:27 PM »

Good fight back from Bairstow, Stokes + Foakes. Given themselves a chance here

rickjames · « **Reply #34 on:** March 08, 2022, 09:00:05 PM »

Get in Jonny

cricketbadger · « **Reply #35 on:** March 08, 2022, 09:07:01 PM »

Quote from: rickjames on March 08, 2022, 07:55:23 PM

How on fecking Earth did the selectors think Buttler was the better option, ever

Exactly that

It's painful seeing him play now and look do good, knowing we should have had this for the last 5 years if they'd picked him

Manormanic · « **Reply #36 on:** March 08, 2022, 09:17:40 PM »

You have three wicketkeeper batsmen. Let's call them Jonny, Jos and Ben. Two are potentially test class with the bat (Jonny and Ben), one is world class with the gloves (Ben) as well, and one is an admittedly brilliant one day buffer with Teflon gloves. Obviously, you can guess which one was deemed undroppable by successive regimes.

SD · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2022, 10:14:49 PM »

Anything over 300 looks a pretty good score to me on what looks like an incredibly dry pitch for the first day of a test match.

Never really understood the antipathy towards Bairstow. Averaging 35 with the bat is hardly world beating but of the current generation only Stokes and Root have performed better and he is an outstanding fielder. Also clearly a guy passionate about playing cricket for England with a huge amount of character. I learn towards the view that this would have to be a very good England side for him to be tje weak link

Manormanic · « **Reply #38 on:** March 08, 2022, 10:30:27 PM »

YJB is largely loathed on here for reasons that escape me. He has been horribly messed around by the selectors as well. I don't claim his record in Test cricket is where it could have been, but you wonder what he might have managed had he been treated the way Goldenballs was.

ppccopener · « **Reply #39 on:** March 08, 2022, 10:48:06 PM »

Buttler may of been given an extended run as Root needed him on the field and vice Captain in some matches.

I think Strauss has given Root what he wants without the big two bowlers but also without his right hand man to see if he can Captain the side on his own.

Bairstow in Sri Lanka played well, and kept it up since then. You wouldn�t drop him from the line up we have.

I think he is better in the lower middle order, it suits his game rather than a 3 or 4.

Jimbo · « **Reply #40 on:** March 09, 2022, 12:05:18 AM »

Quote from: Manormanic on March 08, 2022, 10:30:27 PM

YJB is largely loathed on here for reasons that escape me. He has been horribly messed around by the selectors as well. I don't claim his record in Test cricket is where it could have been, but you wonder what he might have managed had he been treated the way Goldenballs was.

Loathed is maybe a bit strong. Until he sorted out his problems with straight, fast bowling he was a daft pick in red ball cricket. Seems to have worked it out and looks much more like the player he looked like he could be.

Thor Odin�s Son · « **Reply #41 on:** March 09, 2022, 11:40:35 AM »

Maybe Jonny Bairstow was always destined to be a Test match number 6, with or without the gloves. I saw on another site, Bairstow averaged 40 at number 6.
There�s no shame in being a specialist lower middle order batsman, heck Stephen Waugh and Shiv Chanderpaul are all time greats and they thrived at 5 & 6.
Bairstow at number 6 can thrive against the older ball and take the game away from the opponents.

SLA · « **Reply #42 on:** March 09, 2022, 11:45:41 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo on March 09, 2022, 12:05:18 AM

Loathed is maybe a bit strong. Until he sorted out his problems with straight, fast bowling he was a daft pick in red ball cricket. Seems to have worked it out and looks much more like the player he looked like he could be.

I think the view on Bairstow is that he is a genuinely world class talent, but its very difficult for him to be a world class top 6 test batsmen and England's leading T20 opener simultaneously - the technique you need to drill and the instincts you need to hone are mutually exclusive.

England need to decide which of those two things they want him to be from this point on, and drop him from the other format (like they, correctly, dropped Root from the T20 squad). If they do that, he'll have a great finish to his career. If they try to get him to switch between them every month or so, then he'll never be more than mediocre and inconsistent.

rickjames · « **Reply #43 on:** March 09, 2022, 11:49:13 AM »

I think loathing him is also a bit excessive, but with his record for being castled through the gate doesn't help matters.

Really, really hope this is the turning of the screw for him, because in the grand scheme of things he's what this team needs

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 09, 2022, 11:57:57 AM »

Quote from: Manormanic on March 08, 2022, 10:30:27 PM

YJB is largely loathed on here for reasons that escape me. He has been horribly messed around by the selectors as well. I don't claim his record in Test cricket is where it could have been, but you wonder what he might have managed had he been treated the way Goldenballs was.

Well batted Bairstow. Proper good test match knock, showing maturity and the correct test match mentality required. IF.. IF.. he approaches every innings like that with patience, willing to just wait for bad balls and NOT FORCE IT... What a number 6 England could have for a few years.

If he goes back to forcing it mode then he'll come unstuck yet again.

Anyway.. Well batted Bairstow.

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