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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #60 on: May 11, 2022, 02:40:37 PM »

Wasn’t expecting this… could be fun
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #61 on: May 11, 2022, 02:51:28 PM »

with the captain already picked by key, i wonder if a few coaches opted out.

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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #62 on: May 11, 2022, 03:19:56 PM »

McCullum seems to be the frontrunner for the test coach job. Suffice to say I think that's turned a few heads, but could definitely be interesting...

The ECB is leakier than my sieve. I have absolutely no idea of this is a good appointment or not. It could be inspired, but he has zero track record to fall back on, unlike some of the other contenders.

Key got his job during a round of golf with Strauss. McCullum is Key and Morgan's mate.

It just smacks of jobs for the boys and no proper process.

It may be that both will do a good job. But this is a real gamble.
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #63 on: May 11, 2022, 03:59:10 PM »

Well Kirsten's issue seems to apparently be a lack of committment, if he's not in for the long haul then it's pointless even considering him
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #64 on: May 11, 2022, 04:31:07 PM »

If he keeps up this kind of form he'd be difficult to ignore completely. Still young though at 23 so prone to a sudden loss of form like he had in white ball over the winter.

I'm not sure that that was a loss of form so much as frequently going in late in run chases and having little to no time to settle.

Is he going to be a top player?  Hell yes.

Would I pick him straight away?  I might wait till the second half of the Summer. 
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #65 on: May 11, 2022, 04:54:41 PM »

There appears to be a real lack of choice for the ECB top job and the coaches.
English cricket does not appear to be the plum job anymore, on and off the field we seem to be lacking options
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #66 on: May 11, 2022, 07:08:55 PM »

There appears to be a real lack of choice for the ECB top job and the coaches.
English cricket does not appear to be the plum job anymore, on and off the field we seem to be lacking options

Wow! Can't believe McCullum is in the running. He certainly doesn't need the money so is doing for the challenge. He wont die wondering that's for sure. I think it's a great option.
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #67 on: May 11, 2022, 07:29:08 PM »

Well he passes the test that Moores and Silverwood failed: noone is going to look at him in the dressing room and go "what has this bloke ever done?"
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #68 on: May 11, 2022, 07:56:49 PM »

Yes agree with that. You would of thought the one day position would suit his style more but our Test side is definatley a challenging job.

His style is very aggressive so it will be interesting to see how he adapts himself….unless we are going all guns blazing from the off  :)

Liked watching him as a player thou and he stopped NZ being timid as a player and Captain.

Lots to admire, I thought we would go with Kirsten for the Test job myself.
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #69 on: May 11, 2022, 08:06:05 PM »

McCullum + Stokes + Morgan = Bloody well getting on with it!!!

This is going to be epic!
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2022, 08:10:14 PM »

With the one day side though, you are really just rubber stamping Morgan's decisions and will be similar, one suspects, when Buttler inevitably takes over. There is a long production line of talent, and a "house style" of playing.

There is a lot more to do with the red ball side, and Mccullum may be the ideal man - one of the things you noticed with his Kiwi sides was that they played positive cricket, but that that did not mean everyone was pushed to be the same - the more classical players stayed technically the same, but we're encouraged to show intent. You imagine that Sibley, for example, would be encouraged to rotate the strike rather more.
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #71 on: May 11, 2022, 08:38:38 PM »

McCullum + Stokes + Morgan = Bloody well getting on with it!!!

This is going to be epic!

I'm going to day one at Lords, I'm assuming a similar outcome as the last time i was there (day one of the Ireland game) is inevitable!
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #72 on: May 12, 2022, 07:47:08 AM »

I am interested if Key is still splitting the coaching roles if McCullum is appointed?

McCullum is primarily a white ball coach, so apart from the logistics surely he could do both jobs
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #73 on: May 12, 2022, 07:50:05 AM »

Let's guess a McCullum / Stokes 'Bloody Well Getting on with it' Test XI eh?

Surely Roy, YJB, Buttler, Morgan, Tresco and himself in the top 6, Stokes at 7 and probably keeping, then Liam Livingstone and a random bunch of Medium-paced seamers!
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Re: Joe Root steps down as skipper
« Reply #74 on: May 12, 2022, 08:09:09 AM »

Let's guess a McCullum / Stokes 'Bloody Well Getting on with it' Test XI eh?

Surely Roy, YJB, Buttler, Morgan, Tresco and himself in the top 6, Stokes at 7 and probably keeping, then Liam Livingstone and a random bunch of Medium-paced seamers!

TCurran, Jordan and SCurran. Nothing but wide yorkers and poorly bowled cutters, every test, everywhere.
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