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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #120 on: June 06, 2022, 06:00:10 PM »

If the press is correct Moeen has been sounded out to return.
If the idea is strengthening the tail.

Whatever we think of playing the best spinner he got us runs at number 8.

And there is an argument to say he is our best spinner

Worse economy rate and average than Leach, I'd struggle to argue that Ali deserves his spot as a bowler.

Does give you more with the bat but do we really want to go back to the bits-and-pieces player selection strategy?

If England want to strengthen their tail I'd suggest working with the strongest bowlers to improve their batting. Both Lyon and Leach are great examples of how improvements can be made with coaching and the drive to do it.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #121 on: June 07, 2022, 08:17:46 AM »

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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #122 on: June 07, 2022, 01:01:30 PM »

Look at Moeen's strike rate - especially in England. You need 20 wickets.

When he's playing with the England seamers who cares if he potentially goes at 4s? He's the closest thing to a fit x-factor bowler England have in the current situation. 
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #123 on: June 08, 2022, 02:04:41 AM »

Will Pope stay in the side? Brook at 3 would be a bit harsh, right?

(As in a tough first gig)
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #124 on: June 08, 2022, 07:59:16 AM »

It’s a new position for Pope, they have to give him the whole series to prove himself I think.

Good to hear in the press Stokes praising Foakes role in the test match after Key has been talking up Butler still as a five day option.

You have to back the players selected.

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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #125 on: June 08, 2022, 08:24:52 AM »

england have a massive issue at number 3, and have for years. Root is our best batter by miles but we are piling pressure on him by him having to go in at 20-2 every innings.

Lee's doesnt look to have improved the opening spot but isnt any worse that Burns so i would give him a run in the side to see if he can find his groove in test cricket. I would move Crawley to 3 and bring Sibley back in, much prefer the idea of us  batting longer in the top 3 and putting miles in the bowlers legs. Nobody complained when cook and trott ground bowlers into the ground, not saying we have anywhere near that quality but its a 5 day match lets make the most of it

The high run scorers in the championship cannot be ignored in favour of giving their mates another game. Potts coming in on the back of form is the best example, so why not give brook or compton a chance? Crawley looks like he needs a lot of time in the middle and possibly Kent is the place for him to get that, cant see Rob Key dropping him any time soon.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #126 on: June 08, 2022, 08:50:01 AM »

Pope will play the series at 3, I hope he succeeds there but have strong doubts.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2022, 09:07:14 AM »

Yeah it's a crap call but once you've thrown Pope in there he has to be given the series at least. I like the idea of three openers up top as the only county batsman at 3 putting their hand up seems to be Bracey, but we've struggled enough finding two, never mind three...
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #128 on: June 08, 2022, 11:38:23 AM »

agree Pope must be given time to bat at 3, unless he decided he didnt want it. id rather him than YJB in the middle order and a proper number 3 long term as Pope is well worth his place but another player being forced into a role he's not even done at county level.

Was really hoping Baz and stokes would tear up the old way and start putting pegs in the right holes, heres hoping this first series is just them settling in
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #129 on: June 10, 2022, 09:43:35 AM »

No Williamson, Wagner not playing, no frontline spinner

Glad we're having a bowl
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #130 on: June 10, 2022, 01:09:16 PM »

Not the first time Crawley's tried to be the hero

Jesus Christ that is bad
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #131 on: June 10, 2022, 02:06:49 PM »

Root should be taking that, seemed to wobble late but I feel like we may regret that.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #132 on: June 10, 2022, 02:08:41 PM »

Absolute dolly
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #133 on: June 10, 2022, 05:06:01 PM »

Suffice to say that this has been a poor day
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #134 on: June 11, 2022, 11:11:55 AM »

Another drop, for God's sake
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