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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2022, 03:41:21 PM »
I might just open a can of worms with these questions.

What's the WCW bat makers back ground? Was he an apprentice anywhere or a carpenter that's a natural talent in bat making?

Do they press their own clefts? Even if they own a press, are they using it or learning how to? If it was my cash, I'd like to know.

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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2022, 03:46:55 PM »
Heard on grapevine Aldred trained wcw owner

They also have a background in selling willow / not sure what came first

Believe they own their own press ..
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2022, 04:00:35 PM »
Quote from: Jaffa on October 11, 2022, 03:41:21 PM
I might just open a can of worms with these questions.

What's the WCW bat makers back ground? Was he an apprentice anywhere or a carpenter that's a natural talent in bat making?

Do they press their own clefts? Even if they own a press, are they using it or learning how to? If it was my cash, I'd like to know.

Yes they own a press and yes they use it. They've been around for a good few years now.

As for if they served an apprenticeship, i doubt it as there's very few of those available anywhere now. So how is someone supposed to get into batmaking other than teach themselves and have some guidance along the way? You don't have to have either served an apprenticeship or be a carpenter to become a batmaker imo. Surely all that matters is that you make a good product, care about what you're doing and give good service etc. Unless I've misinterpreted the question.
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2022, 04:19:26 PM »
I don't doubt what Jonny says. But it is strange that they usr the wording "grown and shaped in England". Perhaps someone should tell them?

What happened to the lad on here who went to Gunn and Moore?
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2022, 05:09:27 PM »
Quote from: dantsw13 on October 11, 2022, 03:25:23 PM
That's far from unique - Keeley is exactly the same, as are many.

As do Kippax and I think JEDi were starting to plant their own willow.
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2022, 05:25:11 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on October 11, 2022, 04:19:26 PM
I don't doubt what Jonny says. But it is strange that they usr the wording "grown and shaped in England". Perhaps someone should tell them?

What happened to the lad on here who went to Gunn and Moore?

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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2022, 05:39:25 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on October 11, 2022, 04:19:26 PM
I don't doubt what Jonny says. But it is strange that they usr the wording "grown and shaped in England". Perhaps someone should tell them?

What happened to the lad on here who went to Gunn and Moore?


Not that I'm their chief defender, far from it. However, I've seen their press and watched them pressing. I actually almost bought their original press when they obtained another. If you look at their socials, you can see them processing willow and some clefts machine shaped up before they're handled, then most likely pressed a second time and hand shaped/finished.

As I said, not their chief defender but just thought it might help clear up whats obviously a hot topic 😁

Let's not even get into the whole, are you actually a batmaker unless you press debate 😂
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2022, 05:55:48 PM »
Mike who makes their bats came out of the army. I met him prior to him launching WCW and offered him my experiences of the cricket industry over the last 18 years I’ve been in it.

He was selling willow originally but quickly learnt that by doing a few more procedures it’s far more profitable making those clefts into bats 😂

They do the full process in house in their warehouse.
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2022, 05:56:26 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on October 11, 2022, 05:25:11 PM
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2022, 06:03:25 PM »
He must have a lot of experience after working at Gm. Be great to see him post on here

Just checked the socials, just released two bats as well for sale

Although the second 1 would not pass as a g3 even, price is very high . Pink stickers , I guess grading is subjective .
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2022, 06:57:47 PM »
He was at H4L following GM and has now moved onto forge his own path
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2022, 07:04:31 PM »
Quote from: Thamesvalley on October 11, 2022, 06:03:25 PM
He must have a lot of experience after working at Gm. Be great to see him post on here

Just checked the socials, just released two bats as well for sale

Although the second 1 would not pass as a g3 even, price is very high . Pink stickers , I guess grading is subjective .

Definitely the way to encourage him into the forum mate 😂
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2022, 07:32:28 PM »
Quote from: Yorkershire on October 11, 2022, 05:09:27 PM
As do Kippax and I think JEDi were starting to plant their own willow.

I was highlighting the fact that they were seemingly avoiding saying 'Made in England'.
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2022, 07:37:32 PM »
Seems a foot in the door at GM isn't the dream opportunity one might imagine?  ;)
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Re: Keeley vs WCW
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2022, 07:39:30 PM »
Quote from: jonny77 on October 11, 2022, 07:04:31 PM
Definitely the way to encourage him into the forum mate 😂

Honestly not being harsh if he had that type
Of experience he must be very good
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