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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2022, 02:55:57 PM »

On the positive side, gives them a real good look at Jacks. Seems to have the skillset to be a potential multiformat player for years to come.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2022, 03:16:47 PM »

Moeen Ali role. Batting is his stronger suit, but he's been picked instead of a specialist spinner (because we don't have any good ones).

Kept Virdi and Moriarty out of Surrey side last year.  know what he does; I spent fairly large parts of the summer watching him.  ;)

I'd argue he didn't keep them out of the side but it was a decision made by Surrey to add the extra batting know he could hold an end to allow seamers to take wickets.
Rather than him being a better spinner than Virdi or Moriarty.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2022, 03:30:03 PM »

I wasn't suggesting he was a better bowler than either of them. But he did keep them out of the side, for whatever reason. (Go on Surrey fans' forum and you will find loads of conjecture about it )

I was also suggesting it was a joke that England should play him as a bowler. I had to check to see if 3-140 is his best-bowling. (It isn't.)
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2022, 04:19:10 PM »

Agreed, but as a second spinner in such conditions. Is he or Livingstone the worst options we could use? Probably not, with Root in the side too, would Critchley been an option (just thinking of someone that turns it the other way).
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2022, 05:31:51 PM »

Livingstone didn't bowl a single ball, Jacks bowled 33 overs so quite the difference. Not sure why they didn't give Livingstone a go even for a couple overs just for something different, on pitches like this you have to use everything at your disposal.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2022, 05:54:59 PM »

Wasn't Livingstone injured?
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2022, 06:24:51 PM »

Yes, Livingstone is injured.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2022, 06:49:12 PM »

I thought his action seemed familiar then I saw a journalist on Twitter likened Jacks’ action to Michael Vaughan’s. I’m no off spin expert so would be interested to know what a proper offie thinks of his action/ability
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2022, 08:02:36 AM »

Well, they're certainly going for it
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2022, 09:49:02 AM »

Livingstone using his bat as a walking stick
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2022, 10:37:40 AM »

Robbooooooo

Even if we lose I'm fine with it, Stokes has made the intentions clear where most teams wouldn't even entertain it.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2022, 12:20:58 PM »

Well bowled, Will Jacks.  :o
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2022, 12:38:07 PM »

Joe Root batted left-handed for one ball!
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2022, 06:20:21 PM »

They are right that people pay to come and should be entertained. To dare to win you must be willing to lose. Another cracking final day in prospect.

Not to forget this was basically the only attack England had fit to play with the sickness in camp.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2022, 10:26:13 PM »

They are right that people pay to come and should be entertained. To dare to win you must be willing to lose. Another cracking final day in prospect.

Not to forget this was basically the only attack England had fit to play with the sickness in camp.

Well said, couldnt have put it better.

So much better to watch than the fear-of-failure regimes of the past. Hats off to Mccullum!
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