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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #255 on: December 20, 2022, 06:16:38 PM »

I think Bairstow is all but confirmed unavailable by their medical staff. I'd like to see Duckett given a crack, looks far more assured in his method than Crawley.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #256 on: December 20, 2022, 06:17:43 PM »

Probably not. It’d be very harsh on Leach, but the option of a spinner who can bat 7/8 will definitely tempt them.

In spinning conditions I can see it for sure, I just think in NZ I'd have SCurran at 8 to be the 3/4 seamer.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #257 on: December 20, 2022, 06:21:17 PM »

NZ last year were going in with Boult, Southee, Jamieson, Wagner and De Grandhomme.

So there may be a scenario where Leach might not even get a game. The coach should know the pitches well which is handy!

I dont see any harm in Rehan travelling with the squad if theres no lions cricket anywhere. Probably do him more good than netting in the east midlands
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #258 on: December 20, 2022, 06:23:31 PM »

That's a fair point, although he's also by all accounts a handy white ball player so he could also benefit from a stint in a franchise league somewhere. Definitely a potential multiformat player there.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #259 on: December 20, 2022, 06:26:08 PM »

He will look to play franchises globally to get more experience alongside
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #260 on: December 20, 2022, 06:29:49 PM »


@golders - who said you could post? Dictator Chad with his million bats in a closet certainly didn't give you permission to - did you not know my views are x times more powerful than yours? x being the number of bats in the closet.

Finally you’re being your authentic self. Finally you’ve stopped hiding in your already chocca closet.Proud of you, Gazillion bats Chadster
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #261 on: December 20, 2022, 06:43:57 PM »

I think Bairstow is all but confirmed unavailable by their medical staff. I'd like to see Duckett given a crack, looks far more assured in his method than Crawley.
Horses for courses pick or not they can’t be dropping him after the series he’s had.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #262 on: December 20, 2022, 07:05:58 PM »

What a set of performances from the whole squad. Debutants who could, performed well across the series, not counting livingstone with an injury to be honest. But players who came in, just continued to perform which is great to see. I liked Foakes standard of keeping when he played that final game, it certainly gave off some more confidence.

I absolutely love this brand of cricket we’re creating my days are long gone, as in very long gone and I know this but even I want to play for England again. It must be an amazing environment to be in at the moment. Even more so than the dominant years around ‘10,’11.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #263 on: December 20, 2022, 07:24:28 PM »

As good as a debut it was from Ahmed, he's still developing and don't see him being needed in NZ. Tbh, neither will Leach most likely. Not often in England's we'd need two full time spinners either. If it's a straight choice, then historically captains have gone with more control rather than a leggie who can leak runs a bit more. Not sure Stokes would tho!

In NZ I'd expect 4 seamers. Or 3 and Stokes if fit to bowl, with either Livingstone or Jacks offering part time spin maybe? Nice to have options tho!

Oh and @Chad, how bigs your bleeding cupboard?!
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #264 on: December 20, 2022, 10:50:09 PM »

Two things:
I hope Rehan doesn’t spend too much time with a white ball in his hand, feel it will a waste of a talent that could be playing test cricket!

And is AJ2014 back?
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #265 on: December 21, 2022, 01:15:34 AM »

Two things:
I hope Rehan doesn’t spend too much time with a white ball in his hand, feel it will a waste of a talent that could be playing test cricket!

Agreed!
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #266 on: December 21, 2022, 07:19:38 AM »

Couple of things ....

1. Rehan won't go to NZ, no point in him carrying drinks with no chance of playing. Interesting though is that the IPL auction is on Friday and his base price is only 40 Lakh.

2. I think it largely depends on the size of squad they take to NZ. I think a Broad / Anderson swap is possible. I expect the same batting unit to be picked with Jennings to be the spare batter, they need to see if Duckett can cope with the moving ball before the Ashes.

3. Jacks and/or Livingstone are the ones to possibly be changed for seam bowling options as the simply is no need for 3 spin bowling options in NZ (when you have Root as well).
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #267 on: December 21, 2022, 07:44:09 AM »

Rehan or Jacks must be in with a small chance of playing in NZ, given the Kiwis often don't play a spinner and I think we didn't in any of the tests last time we were there it would make sense to have someone who can offer some proper batting - Santner gets tests for NZ in that role pretty regularly. Don't see it happening given how strongly Stokes has backed Leach though. Could definitely see it happening in future once those two are more settled into internationals given how few overs spinners actually bowl in a lot of our tests.

Anyone seen any news on when the NZ squad will come out? Assume it'll be very soon, and probably broadly the same but one of Rehan/Jacks drops out of the 15 with Broad back in and Potts possibly in for Overton.
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #268 on: December 21, 2022, 08:00:00 AM »

I really liked this article about the team and tour. I only followed through TMS and highlights, but it’s great to see what was going on behind the scenes a little.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/england-in-pakistan-2022-england-s-vibes-of-revival-land-their-greatest-glory-yet-1350532
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Re: Pakistan v England Test Series 2022
« Reply #269 on: December 21, 2022, 07:46:11 PM »

I expect England to monitor Rehan thru our season with a tour to India next year. He may not bowl that many overs during our summer.

You know what, I think he'll do okay - the fact that he is at a smaller county with a smaller playing squad will help with that, as will the fact that he is heading toward being a proper all rounder, at least a division 2 level.  But the real clincher will be his marketability!
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