Topic: Batting with no scuff sheet (Read 8157 times)

Sloggerz · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2022, 10:07:22 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on December 17, 2022, 09:47:39 PM

Yeah i can certainly bind the handle if needed mate. I use liquid rubber toe guards. Similar to the Keeley ones, but not quite as hard. Personally feel they need to be softer and they stay on, also wear particularly well. Mine was ok all last season, hardly wore at all and i tap a lot

Ok sounds good. Would you need to keep the bats over night or could i pop down and wait whilst you fit the toe guards and bind the handle?

SurreySam · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2022, 10:09:32 PM »

Personally I don't like the hard hammer edge scuff sheets. For me the feel isn't up to the helicopter and fibre scuff sheet standards.

Sloggerz · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2022, 10:13:33 PM »

Quote from: Alvaro on December 17, 2022, 10:03:19 PM

@Sloggerz Once it�s knocked, no seam marks. Any superficial cracks can be repaired with TLC, or more accurately, glue, sandpaper and fiberglass tape.

When scuff sheets first came out i always thought they would impact on ping. But now hardly anyone bats raw with no sheet on..

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2022, 10:24:26 PM »

Well pros use that fibre stuff which is so thin it hardly does anything �

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2022, 10:26:32 PM »

It�s probably as good as playing with no sheet

InternalTraining · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2022, 10:56:57 PM »

Quote from: Sloggerz on December 17, 2022, 07:44:35 PM

Does anyone here bat without a scuff sheet? If so did you notice extra ping?

I can't say definitively about improved ping but what I can tell you is that I ended removing the scuff sheets from my main match bats. I only cover areas that are showing cracking or excessive grain splitting. I hit from a certain area of the middle and that's where most wear-tear happens. I just cover that up and leave the rest. Also, if you've had edges cracked, then after oil-glue-sand process, I'd put a few inches of scuff sheet on the newly repaired area.

Once you know how to prepare and maintain bats in good condition, you really don't need the scuff sheet. One season is usually enough for me.

jonny77 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2022, 11:33:15 PM »

Quote from: Sloggerz on December 17, 2022, 10:07:22 PM

Ok sounds good. Would you need to keep the bats over night or could i pop down and wait whilst you fit the toe guards and bind the handle?

You'd need to leave them mate. The binding can be done quickly, the toe guard needs time to set before finishing. This is the finished product....

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2022, 11:41:45 PM »

That�s decent can�t even see the toe guard obv very flush to the bat

Bungle · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2022, 10:01:42 AM »

Jonny's toe guards are so much better than the usual rubber ones you get, I can't even feel where the toe guard starts because it has been finished so smoothly.

Neon Cricket · « **Reply #24 on:** December 20, 2022, 10:01:34 AM »

Quote from: Thamesvalley on December 17, 2022, 10:24:26 PM

Well pros use that fibre stuff which is so thin it hardly does anything �

Fibre is stronger and lighter than clear scuff, it's why most pros use it.

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #25 on:** December 20, 2022, 10:26:02 AM »

Interesting I was not aware

I have seen it on some boards or servers that it�s useless by bat repairers who also repair pro bats

I did question why pros would use if that was the case ..

Perosnally I think the ones the clear ones uk made are the strongest but also heavier

Iv had cracks on bats through fibre but not on the clear uk stuff however that could be due to other reasons

jonny77 · « **Reply #26 on:** December 20, 2022, 12:11:55 PM »

Quote from: Neon Cricket on December 20, 2022, 10:01:34 AM

Fibre is stronger and lighter than clear scuff, it's why most pros use it.

I always find this interesting. 30cm of clear scuff weighs in at 3/8oz or 10 grams. 30cm of fibre scuff 1/4 oz or 6grams on my scales. So yes there is a difference, but it's absolutely minuscule in the grand scheme of things. If you feel you can notice that and feel it makes a difference, fair enough. I'm happy to put either on bats, or leave it off completely.

Is it stronger? Not sure as this is generally based on experiences, opinions etc rather than any specific evidence/findings and almost impossible to quantify. I've seen plenty of bats with fibre scuff which have cracked easily. My thoughts, if the willow isn't great, dry or has some defects like storm damage etc, then fibre or clear won't make much difference. I'm not sure how much difference it makes to stop damage anyway tbh. I generally recommended it to help offer some protection initially and feel it can help to protect the willow if people are playing against a damp ball.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #27 on:** December 20, 2022, 12:45:19 PM »

"Oh, no! I've got no scuff sheet on!"

Butterfingerzz · « **Reply #28 on:** December 20, 2022, 01:11:57 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on December 20, 2022, 12:11:55 PM

I always find this interesting. 30cm of clear scuff weighs in at 3/8oz or 10 grams. 30cm of fibre scuff 1/4 oz or 6grams on my scales. So yes there is a difference, but it's absolutely minuscule in the grand scheme of things. If you feel you can notice that and feel it makes a difference, fair enough. I'm happy to put either on bats, or leave it off completely.

Is it stronger? Not sure as this is generally based on experiences, opinions etc rather than any specific evidence/findings and almost impossible to quantify. I've seen plenty of bats with fibre scuff which have cracked easily. My thoughts, if the willow isn't great, dry or has some defects like storm damage etc, then fibre or clear won't make much difference. I'm not sure how much difference it makes to stop damage anyway tbh. I generally recommended it to help offer some protection initially and feel it can help to protect the willow if people are playing against a damp ball.

At the old place we found with fibre there's less marking with the seam relating to a little less damage

jonny77 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 20, 2022, 02:33:22 PM »

Quote from: Butterfingerzz on December 20, 2022, 01:11:57 PM

At the old place we found with fibre there's less marking with the seam relating to a little less damage

Interesting. How was this tested mate?

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