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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2023, 04:06:29 PM »
Top players tend to get the pick the rest get sent the rest really.

Seen a few of Stokes pre GM nothing special all went but no great lookers.

Average county player tends to get what he sent !
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Re: "Pro" Bats and number of professional players...
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2023, 07:30:22 PM »
Quote from: procricket on February 07, 2023, 04:06:29 PM
Top players tend to get the pick the rest get sent the rest really.

Seen a few of Stokes pre GM nothing special all went but no great lookers.

Average county player tends to get what he sent !
As Dan Lawrence started his cricket at my club, he gave one of our 1st XI players, one of his and one of Ben Stokes' bats; great pick ups and superb middles.
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Re: "Pro" Bats and number of professional players...
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2023, 07:56:48 PM »
Quote from: procricket on February 07, 2023, 04:06:29 PM
Top players tend to get the pick the rest get sent the rest really.

Seen a few of Stokes pre GM nothing special all went but no great lookers.

Average county player tends to get what he sent !
I've seen Ben Stokes players bat at a retailer, weight 2lb 12oz, full size, full shape, only sapwood, picked up like 2lb 10oz, 10-12 very straight grains, that's the bat to pay £600 for happily!
Someone promised to came back to buy that bat.
10/10 for that bat.
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2023, 10:57:43 PM »
The Stokes bat at B3 picked up feather light and was huge for the dead weight. This is the joys of the bat making world.

Would you rather have a bat with 19 ruler straight grains or one with 5 that performs better as a Pro player. I know which camp I’m in if relying on something as the tools of my trade to score runs with.

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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2023, 12:38:56 AM »
The Dan Lawrence bat I posted a picture of clearly wasn't as good looking as pictures we've seen posted of Dan Lawrence Player's Edition shop bats.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2023, 12:41:43 AM by Bats_Entertainment »
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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2023, 12:02:30 PM »
Bats are so good now that I am not sure pro bats are even that much if a thing.
If I hit hundreds of balls a week, I suspect my timing would improve somewhat. Add that to a strength and conditioning regime and specialist range hitting skills the players do now... I genuinely think you could give Harry Brook a kashmir plank and he could still hit sixes.
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Re: "Pro" Bats and number of professional players...
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2023, 01:19:09 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 08, 2023, 12:02:30 PM
Bats are so good now that I am not sure pro bats are even that much if a thing.
If I hit hundreds of balls a week, I suspect my timing would improve somewhat. Add that to a strength and conditioning regime and specialist range hitting skills the players do now... I genuinely think you could give Harry Brook a kashmir plank and he could still hit sixes.

Shh, don't tell everyone! ;)

In all seriousness I completely agree, the fact of the matter is we're talking about people that train multiple days per week to perfect their art - you could put almost any bats in their hands and they'd still score runs. Unfortunately not the case for the majority of us amateurs...  :D
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Re: "Pro" Bats and number of professional players...
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2023, 02:04:09 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 08, 2023, 12:02:30 PM
Bats are so good now that I am not sure pro bats are even that much if a thing.
If I hit hundreds of balls a week, I suspect my timing would improve somewhat. Add that to a strength and conditioning regime and specialist range hitting skills the players do now... I genuinely think you could give Harry Brook a kashmir plank and he could still hit sixes.

This. This and more this! 😁 I can hit a decent ball at golf, but give me Rory McIlroys driver and I ain't instantly gaining 100 yards! Same with cricket, pros are pros for a reason.
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Re: "Pro" Bats and number of professional players...
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2023, 02:32:51 PM »
Definitely less between a really good bat and a "Pro" bat than people think, I reckon.

We had a lad who'd played professionally in Pakistan with us very briefly and he was impressed with the rebound and pickup on a couple of my bats. He said he'd had bats that had been gifts from guys around the national side as well.

I reckon if you go to a good batmaker and you're willing to pay a fair price and wait for the right cleft to come along you'll get something a professional would be perfectly happy with.
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2023, 07:29:31 PM »
That isn't to say every so often there are unicorn bats which pick up materially lighter than they have a right to because they come from a really light cleft though. Those bats are the business.
They don't come along very often.
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Re: "Pro" Bats and number of professional players...
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2023, 08:04:26 PM »
Quote from: procricket on February 07, 2023, 04:06:29 PM
Top players tend to get the pick the rest get sent the rest really.


Pretty logical conclusion... it was the numbers... if you just take county players alone. Players that may never reach the heights of international cricket but journey men players; there mist be a large number or am I talking complete rubbish? Makes absolute sense they get what we can buy off the shelf...

Hope the coming season helps restart the buzz on the forum... as someone mentioned earlier... its just been Jonny and Soulman and their work of late...

I kind of miss the old TK vs some other batmaker threads... always entertaining, even if there was a lot of uninformed garbage  :D
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Re: "Pro" Bats and number of professional players...
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2023, 09:13:36 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 08, 2023, 07:29:31 PM
That isn't to say every so often there are unicorn bats which pick up materially lighter than they have a right to because they come from a really light cleft though. Those bats are the business.
They don't come along very often.
Guess that was the Stoke player's bat I was talking about
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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2023, 10:09:42 PM »
It never fails to surprise that people are prepared to pay a premium for a bat that a professional- who hits thousands of balls with bats every year- has picked up and rejected
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Re: "Pro" Bats and number of professional players...
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2023, 12:28:27 PM »
I'd be very disappointed if even the most clueless CBF didn't have at least one bat with a great pick-up and a superb middle.
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Re: "Pro" Bats and number of professional players...
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2023, 03:22:16 PM »
Quote from: SD on February 08, 2023, 10:09:42 PM
It never fails to surprise that people are prepared to pay a premium for a bat that a professional- who hits thousands of balls with bats every year- has picked up and rejected

TBF I think the thinking is if the bat made it to the batch from which a pro is picking from, its assumed it will be better than the bats that were never destined for a pro. I can understand what the attraction is, but I see your point about it being a reject and a true pro bat.
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