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[adb club cricketer]

Folks,

Have always been aware that batsmen stand outside the crease to negate the swing. Want to know if there are any other reasons from players who actually do that. Specifically, when the ball isn't swinging, is there a benefit to batting standing outside the crease?
I think you might get slightly more number of drivable balls but you also get less pull/cut balls, so there doesn't really seem to be an advantage overall. But I remember seeing batsmen standing outside the crease even when not swinging, so curious to know.

Also, if this has worked for any of you guys, please post here and why it works for you.

[marsbug]

Back in my younger (and better) days, I use to stand a fair way out of my crease, in the hope that the bowler would aim their length at where I'm stood, rather than the stumps. The idea was that if/when I missed a straight one, there was a better chance of it going over the top of the stumps. I have absolutely nothing to back up the concept! Although a secondary bonus was that it seemed to really annoy the keepers (always a good thing), and they'd always be having a shy at the stumps in anger.

[edge]

Sometimes I think a lot of people do it just because they watched too many clips of Matthew Hayden...

Where you stand is a very tactical/personal thing and also depends on the bowler. If you're a front foot player and are facing a bowler who tends to overpitch if they miss their length, then chances are standing out of your crease is a good tactic. If you're looking to play off the back foot then you probably don't want to be a foot down the pitch regardless of the bowler.

Can be really useful in club cricket if you're facing an old boy who likes to bash out their length - move your stance and you get a few half volleys before they adjust.

[MichaelM]

Folks,

Have always been aware that batsmen stand outside the crease to negate the swing. Want to know if there are any other reasons from players who actually do that. Specifically, when the ball isn't swinging, is there a benefit to batting standing outside the crease?
I think you might get slightly more number of drivable balls but you also get less pull/cut balls, so there doesn't really seem to be an advantage overall. But I remember seeing batsmen standing outside the crease even when not swinging, so curious to know.

Also, if this has worked for any of you guys, please post here and why it works for you.

Standing outside the crease only works against fast bowlers, where keeper has to stand far behind the stumps. Idea is to make bowler alter the length, in other words, to put them off their bowling line and length.

[alba caerulea]

Folks,

Have always been aware that batsmen stand outside the crease to negate the swing. Want to know if there are any other reasons from players who actually do that. Specifically, when the ball isn't swinging, is there a benefit to batting standing outside the crease?
I think you might get slightly more number of drivable balls but you also get less pull/cut balls, so there doesn't really seem to be an advantage overall. But I remember seeing batsmen standing outside the crease even when not swinging, so curious to know.

Also, if this has worked for any of you guys, please post here and why it works for you.

I have moved outside the crease and also walked at the seam bowler regularly on slow low wickets where back foot play is difficult. (No pace, chop on risk etc) and to create some momentum into the ball. The more you can turn into a drivable length the better.

At a higher level this is obviously made more difficult by keepers having the ability to stand up to most medium pacers

[SD]

At a higher level this is obviously made more difficult by keepers having the ability to stand up to most medium pacers

Even if it is short lived, by doing it you may have forced the bowling side into something they wouldn't otherwise have done.

Aside from negating swing, batting outside you crease is about unsettling the bowler and the standing up puts extra pressure on the bowler to get their line right as well as taking the short ball away

[langer17]

I actually stand really deep in my  crease on occasion. Makes the bowler think they are bowling short and they will often pitch it up and then I go back to a regular stance and find driving easier due to the fuller length. Could be anecdotal but you get a smidge more time to play the ball too when standing deep.

Also stand deep to spinners for the same reason. Especially good against offies as you get so many more balls to pull

Only time I'd stand out is if the bowler was swinging the ball late. Gives me a chance to get to the ball earlier and negate the late swing.

[urban.monk]

Tried standing in and out, they got me all the same.

[The4thStump]

I try to stand out of my crease mainly to disrupt the bowlers length. E.g. a normal yorker would be a full toss.
plus as someone alluded to earlier if i miss a straight one/ get hit on the pads, i find im less likely to be out.

If the bowler adapts the length for me standing out of my crease  i would then step back into my crease and hopefully hit the shorter deliveries ive tricker him into bowling.

All mind games for me personally.

[jjelricksmith]

As an opener I stand probably a shoe length outside of my crease. Idea being 1. the umpires should see that and it gives them some doubt. 2. My partner I open with bats very deep in his crease so a lot of the time one of us gets the 4 balls but rarely both. 3. I'm a bit prone to the nip backer so the closer I can get to the ball the better.

If anyone has any tips for stopping getting out to the nip backer I'm all ears. I bat on 2 at the moment and shuffle over to more middle. Thinking of going over 1 more so at least I'm LBW not bowled as sometimes standing on 2 I do give a gap between bat and pad.