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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2023, 10:06:21 AM »

Think you have to look at why Bairstow has had the success and the likely impact of such a severe injury on a guy who isn't a spring chicken any more though. He was destroying teams playing as a pure batsman so ideally you'd stick with that winning formula.
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2023, 12:24:03 PM »

That Pope catch. Impressive.
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2023, 12:47:11 PM »

Have to say that’s one of the most enjoyable things about the new positive play. Broad is perfect as well as he cannot survive defensively but he can hit and he takes on the short ball.

Just occasionally and I do mean occasionally he reminds me of his Dad thru the offside.
 
Good batsman his Dad was too

I think people forget nowadays that for the first six or seven years of his test career he was seen as someone with serious potential to develop into a Test match all rounder - not of the Flintoff/Stokes mould but certainly in the vein of Pollock, Hadlee or in more recent years a Bresnan or Woakes, someone who could bat at seven or eight and reliably average high 20s with some significant contributions.  Then he got collared by that short ball and developed a fear of the ball!
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2023, 12:49:35 PM »

Think you have to look at why Bairstow has had the success and the likely impact of such a severe injury on a guy who isn't a spring chicken any more though. He was destroying teams playing as a pure batsman so ideally you'd stick with that winning formula.

He was only ever a functional keeper, and as a tall guy it will be wrecking his knees.  The injury was a serious one, and he was prone to carrying a bit of timber pre-injury (his natural speed probably hid how much).  Yes, he is a better batsman than Foakes, but I reckon the maths of additional runs scored vs the ones cost behind the sticks probably has Ben in front.

And its not like there are not batsmen who could be dropped instead.
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2023, 01:30:34 PM »

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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #80 on: February 27, 2023, 07:33:52 AM »

Excellent 5fer for Leach

That Bracewell run-out, however...
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2023, 05:58:16 PM »

Said before the positive mindset of the new management is not so beneficial for the naturally aggressive players, it’s how those who do not overly have that confidence can improve

Leach is one of those and seems to be now thriving. There always have been players not as confident in themselves it’s how they are trusted backed and managed

It’s quite amazing the turn around in our test cricket and huge credit to Stokes and everyone else in the management team
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #82 on: February 27, 2023, 06:44:16 PM »

One thing that concerns me…What’s up with Stokes’ chronically troublesome knee? Is this something he will just have to deal with until he retires- or is surgery an option potentially post-Ashes?
I know many professionals have to deal with niggles and they talk about never being 100% fit, but Stokes looks so uncomfortable much of the time!

Crawley was frenetic from what I saw- that near-run out was a Nasser Hussain “he has a scrambled brain” if ever I saw one!Will they finally lose patience with him?
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2023, 07:08:20 PM »

I think Stokes has played thru pain and if you read anything about his training programme is almost impossible to result in a lengthy career.

I could be he does move up the order a bit and bowl even less. There’s Potts Overton Mahmood possibly Stone backing up the test side and Wood of course-so plenty of seam bowling.

Crawley has a contract but there must come a time when he has had all his chances.

Remember Bairstow will come back so the batting order might get shuffled for this summer

Duckett has done ok better than I thought he would
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #84 on: February 27, 2023, 10:21:19 PM »

Sigh
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #85 on: February 27, 2023, 10:21:59 PM »

Root lost the head there, very daft.
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #86 on: February 27, 2023, 10:23:07 PM »

There’s Bazball but that doesn’t mean tip and run!
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2023, 03:08:44 AM »

What an absolutely phenomenal game of cricket. Still not sure how England contrived to lose that one but you won't see a better advert for test cricket.
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2023, 07:42:53 AM »

Wow, that came out of nowhere
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Re: England in New Zealand
« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2023, 07:47:08 AM »

There’s Bazball but that doesn’t mean tip and run!

You win the internet today. Gold!
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