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Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« on: March 15, 2023, 04:15:24 PM »

This question came about from the WG Willow thread where there was a post saying that Gary Sandford played a high standard of cricket. Also about Aldred playing for Derbyshire.

I also know that Rob Pack played Minor Counties and is a very good SLA.

So got me thinking about that question.... Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker? Or does it just help? Etc....
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Re: Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2023, 05:04:54 PM »

Absolutely not most of the best don’t play cricket
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2023, 05:28:19 PM »

I don't think there's a link, no. Not aware that the Keeleys ever played a very high level, for example.
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Re: Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2023, 06:20:32 PM »

No.
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Re: Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2023, 06:42:16 PM »

Imo, it will make a difference, if it's a batsman.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2023, 07:24:55 PM »

No not at all.

Kember as far as I know only played social club cricket as did Keeley I believe.

Don’t think Alex at GN, any of the GM lads or the UK kook bat maker (name escapes me now) ever played anything at top level.

Iv played some Prem level league cricket as have no doubt many others so depends if you call that good but again no link to being a good bat maker. Being a good engineer doesn’t make you a good driver for example
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2023, 08:25:51 PM »

Do you have to be good in the sack to make a good bed?

Deary me
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Re: Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2023, 08:42:38 AM »

Tim Keeley doesn't play cricket to my knowledge.
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Re: Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2023, 09:33:13 AM »

no link between being good with wood & being a good wood & leather :)
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Re: Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2023, 09:53:40 AM »

Do you have to be good in the sack to make a good bed?

Deary me

What happens if you're **** at both? Is there a correlation? Asking for a friend.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2023, 10:00:12 AM »

What happens if you're **** at both? Is there a correlation? Asking for a friend.

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Re: Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2023, 12:43:33 PM »

This is interesting. They might not have been a good cricketer or played at a high level personally, but surely they need to have a good understanding of the art of batting itself to be able to design and make good bats?

This reminds me of a discussion I had in the past where a friend was questioning Harsha Bhogle's  credentials and what gives him the right to pass expert comments about the game.
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Re: Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2023, 12:51:06 PM »

It's not going to hurt to be a half decent player or have a good understanding of the game, but fundamentally the skills involved in batmaking are so far removed from the skills involved in batting that there's really no relevance at all.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2023, 02:09:19 PM »

I always preferred ordering from the non-cricketers. There are some ex-player/coach batmakers out there, who seem to think that that alone makes them an expert on what a cricket bat should be. There's almost an arrogance which means they have little time to listen to the needs or wants of the customer, nor just plain old physics.

At least when you order from a Tim Keeley or Kember you know he's built that reputation on the  quality of their bats and wood knowledge alone, as opposed to just being the best player in their league that people listen to.
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Re: Do you have to be a good cricketer, to be a good batmaker?
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2023, 03:11:34 PM »

This is interesting. They might not have been a good cricketer or played at a high level personally, but surely they need to have a good understanding of the art of batting itself to be able to design and make good bats?

This reminds me of a discussion I had in the past where a friend was questioning Harsha Bhogle's  credentials and what gives him the right to pass expert comments about the game.

Does the art of batting have any correlation to batmaking whatsoever? I would argue very little



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