Topic: Laminates (Read 3983 times)

Matty59 · « **on:** September 22, 2023, 11:42:04 AM »

Sure I�m not alone in spotting WCW are bringing out a laminate. Are they actually legal to use in league cricket? I�m sure it�ll be a cracking bat, but could be some fun on the way if they�re not technically allowed?

billyb · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2023, 12:22:48 PM »

SG introduced a laminate or 'hybrid' bat this year too. Unsure if it was discussed here or not.

Buzz · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2023, 01:45:04 PM »

Not legal for use in competitions...

Ayrtek Cricket · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2023, 04:53:25 PM »

I was down with WCW yesterday picking up my old Scat that I�d left with them, had a look at the laminates and discussed them whilst leaving my old TK �performance� lam with them to take a look at.

Thamesvalley · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2023, 05:52:52 PM »

We�re you tempted to stock the laminates or wcw generally ?

Or was it a visit for your own personal side

Jlscarroll17 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2023, 05:57:24 PM »

Are there any batmakers who are making laminates at a reasonable price ? If so I�d definitely be interested in getting my hands on a another or two

123* · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2023, 06:53:47 PM »

Lorimers do their own brand. �130, absolutely fly.

Ayrtek Cricket · « **Reply #7 on:** September 22, 2023, 07:19:30 PM »

Quote from: Thamesvalley on September 22, 2023, 05:52:52 PM

We�re you tempted to stock the laminates or wcw generally ?

Or was it a visit for your own personal side

They have a few retailers on board but WCW are a bit too close to me to warrant stocking them as people have far bigger choice going direct given they are 45 mins drive from me here in Bristol.

Six Sixes Cricket · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2023, 09:45:49 AM »

Chase used to do them as well, not sure if the still do.

Kookaburra will be doing them in junior bats this year

elliss · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2023, 12:11:08 PM »

they are legal in junior league cricket. not sure why. possibly a cost consideration

have considered getting one for my junior who uses SH 2.11 bat...... but not worth the 'questions'

mo_town · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2023, 01:54:40 PM »

Curious, why are they illegal in competitions? I have seen that laminates dont necessarily mean huge edges always but still perform like trampolines. How does that happen?

elliss · « **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2023, 02:09:05 PM »

enter the batmakers to give the technical details but i'm sure its because the thin layer of willow on the face of the bat is backed by 'glue' to stick it onto the main bulk of willow at the back. Its all in the glue/adhesive

i think

Chad · « **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2023, 03:32:25 PM »

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=2157.0

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=13758.0

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=27488.0

Just a couple of topics which cover Laminates. It won't be everything there is on them, but an interesting discussion nonetheless. The whole thing started from the Stuart Surridge Turbo that Graham Gooch plundered runs with. The actual initial intention of the laminated bat was actually to give a good looking face piece that could be replaced from memory. Just so happened that it had performance enhancing effects too, with the type of glue affecting the rebound. Maybe imagining things or smoking something funky, but I believe batmakers talk about rebound being achieved by a stiff upper layer of willow, with a spongey underbelly giving that ping/trampoline effect. I guess maybe the glue somehow enhances either the stiffness of the upper layer, or enhances the 'springback' mechanism of the porous underlayer. Also a reason why over-oiling can kill the performance of the bat, it might soften the upper layer, and fill up the porous underlayer and solidify, filling up the air-gaps, leading to loss of energy transferred into hitting the ball.

Table tennis also had some specific glues (Containing VOCs) banned from the construction of the racquets which were dubbed 'speed glue', for a mixture of (toxicity) safety/performance enhancing reasons.

Matty59 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 25, 2023, 06:11:56 PM »

On a similar footing, a few bats I�ve done big delamination repairs on definitely seem to lose nothing performance-wise afterwards. A layer of glue, even an uneven one through layers of delam, certainly does no harm to performance.

Buzz · « **Reply #14 on:** September 25, 2023, 07:04:41 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on September 25, 2023, 01:54:40 PM

Curious, why are they illegal in competitions? I have seen that laminates dont necessarily mean huge edges always but still perform like trampolines. How does that happen?

They are illigal because the blade of the bat has to be made from a single piece of wood.

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