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Thamesvalley

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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #150 on: November 13, 2023, 06:48:41 PM »

Does it work like football if Mott gets sacked he gets a big pay off so he’s a winner anyway and just finds another job

Similar to the now Pakistani coach …
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #151 on: November 13, 2023, 08:07:46 PM »

I don’t buy this focussing on one format rubbish with England. We have specialist coaches, specialist captains and role specific contracts! They have a huge budget, the best background team money can buy. They also have rubbish overpriced kit in the wrong font though. That’s embarrassing!
Having said that, I do like Rob Key, and appreciate his honesty. Seems a bit silly that they fished out contracts before we new the result of the World Cup- that’s also a bit embarrassing! I’d like to see some of the younger players get a good run now. Bowling is still a huge concern. Livingstone seems to have lost his mojo, he was a superstar in the making and has been very disappointing.

Looking forward to the semis and would love to see South Africa win it.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #152 on: November 13, 2023, 08:26:10 PM »

Agree key was just covering up

Malan bairstow root stokes moeen Brook are longer format players

They just didn’t perform
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #153 on: November 13, 2023, 08:47:11 PM »

Pakistan are very poor

Key has taken the blame for englands showing

A deliberate strategy to protect butler and mott I think who will stay unless they resign

Pakistan haven't been a team for a long time. More individuals who save the day. To be fair there's been a lot of turmoil in the country and the PCB, but then again that's a just another day in Pakistan cricket.

One thing I can say as  Pakistan fan is, you have no idea which Pakistan will turn up. Have to mentally prepare yourself the bad days and they tend to be quite painful. Usually it's the hope then implosion that kills you..
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #154 on: November 13, 2023, 08:55:35 PM »

The coach who was brought back that really does seem a disaster move …

He has been terrible recently in other roles
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #155 on: November 13, 2023, 10:53:29 PM »

Agree key was just covering up

Malan bairstow root stokes moeen Brook are longer format players

They just didn’t perform

Longer format players? Really?! You're gonna have to explain your thought process behind that one mate. I'll agree they haven't performed (although not sure you've selected the worst, as some of this have actually scored runs this world cup), but not sure how you can say they're not short format players.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #156 on: November 13, 2023, 10:56:55 PM »

Should have explained it more detailed

The issue has been shorter format players can’t adapt to the longer form , mainly tests but these days it’s seems 50 overs too …

This seems to be the case with Pakistan too

In englands case that can’t be argued as they should have been able to play the longer format (50 overs ) as a lot of them are test players

Key saying too much concentration on tests and longer format , well how’s that hindered the 50 over side ..
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #157 on: November 13, 2023, 11:15:05 PM »

I took it you meant they're longer format players, as in they're not ODI players and more great players. Completely confused me. In fairness, Stokes average 50 and Malan 44, that's not too shabby.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #158 on: November 14, 2023, 08:46:39 AM »

A lot of those you've named have played a lot of T20 of late, I'd say that's got more to do with it than playing tests. Brook for one looked absolutely frantic at times, just going too hard too early.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #159 on: November 15, 2023, 11:38:00 AM »

September 25, 1998 - Sachin Tendulkar surpassed the great Desmond Haynes to become the highest century scorer in ODI cricket. That was Tendulkar’s 18th ODI century at the time.

The Little man held the record for just over 25 years years.

November 15, 2023 - A momentous day, Virat Kohli breaks the “unbreakable record” as he registers his 50th ODI century. A lifetime’s work reaches it’s crowning moment.

This time around, records are meant to be broken, this will never be surpassed.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #160 on: November 15, 2023, 03:44:17 PM »

Well done Mitchell but India look just too strong.

Agree on Kholi. One hell of a player.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #161 on: November 15, 2023, 11:38:15 PM »

Aus Ind final?
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #162 on: November 16, 2023, 07:04:58 AM »

Aus Ind final?
Think if SA win the toss they will score an enormous amount of runs and win fairly comfortably today. Way more up for grabs if Aus bat first.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #163 on: November 16, 2023, 07:46:44 AM »

Looking forward to today's game. I think you might be right, @edge. Should be a good one.
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Re: ODI World Cup 2023
« Reply #164 on: November 16, 2023, 09:17:13 AM »

The talk about the use of two balls making ODIs easy for batsmen makes so much sense. It has killed the format making it easy for batsmen. High time they change that back to one ball or atleast one ball post 30 overs. Give the seamers a chance.
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