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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2023, 02:14:30 PM »

Of the two, my preference would be for a Salix over a Keeley. Salix though have always been very poor with their marketing and their website is consistently dreadful. I did a bit of work in online retail before starting my career and i can't think I have come across anything quite so poor.

I had a look this afternoon and it is more Alan Partridge than a serious attempt to sell a product to a customer. As a reasonably experienced bat buyer, I would have no idea from this what was the difference between bat shapes / models. You can buy a bat as "prepared "but you are none the wiser what this is and they come in light medium and heavy again without any description of what each represents





It is a real shame given the quality of the product and the time dedicated to the standard of the finishing that they can't spent the time to market the products well
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2023, 02:22:18 PM »

If you are keen to get a Keeley bat I would advise that you do it sooner rather than later. Not just from the cost rising point of view but who knows how long the brothers will keep going.

Heard that from a reliable source.

Do you know if they have a succession plan ? Kids brothers sisters ?
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2023, 03:04:42 PM »

Of the two, my preference would be for a Salix over a Keeley. Salix though have always been very poor with their marketing and their website is consistently dreadful. I did a bit of work in online retail before starting my career and i can't think I have come across anything quite so poor.

I had a look this afternoon and it is more Alan Partridge than a serious attempt to sell a product to a customer. As a reasonably experienced bat buyer, I would have no idea from this what was the difference between bat shapes / models. You can buy a bat as "prepared "but you are none the wiser what this is and they come in light medium and heavy again without any description of what each represents





It is a real shame given the quality of the product and the time dedicated to the standard of the finishing that they can't spent the time to market the products well

I thought they had a new website coming or is this it?
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2023, 03:08:07 PM »

Do you know if they have a succession plan ? Kids brothers sisters ?
Not that I have been told, I would buy sooner rather than later if people are interested. 

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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2023, 03:08:12 PM »

I thought they had a new website coming or is this it?

It looks different and the site navigation is easier from the last time I visited so I assume this is it

Unfortunately the fundamental problem over making it hard for customers to understand what you are selling seems to remain
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2023, 03:59:42 PM »

Catching up with an old friend today

He felt salix communication was poor and the whole experience ordering online was not great

Perhaps not enough staff ..
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2023, 05:35:54 PM »

I've used 3 or 4 Keeleys, all decent apart from one that was a bit firm, I could have given it a bit longer and it might have been great. Do they make better performing bats then some forum members, and smaller brands? I personally don't think so, or there is very little in it, especially with pricing.I'm not a fan of thin handles so that might be why I've gone elsewhere. We all know they make for a lot of pros I do wonder if that sways a lot of people on here.
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2023, 06:00:31 PM »

We all know they make for a lot of pros I do wonder if that sways a lot of people on here.

Yes I wondered if that was something to do with it. I'll be honest, the reason I bought a GM when I got back into cricket a few years ago was because of their pros, and the reason I used a DF as a kid was because all my Worcestershire heroes did too. Maybe there's an element that Keeley is similar, but for those of us more interested in the batmaking world and at a higher price point?
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2023, 06:03:42 PM »

Catching up with an old friend today

He felt salix communication was poor and the whole experience ordering online was not great

Perhaps not enough staff ..

Our opening bat has a Salix Knife, and it's a beautiful thing. He does the 3 hour journey to the factory to pick his out every couple of seasons. This season he said there was a different atmosphere than usual, bit more hectic and the guys seemed a little more pressured than the previous time.
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2023, 06:23:56 PM »

I see you have a pryzm Hylacon lovely bats

Not sure who makes them now. Yes he said the same regarding salix… and a bit more
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2023, 06:44:06 PM »

I see you have a pryzm Hylacon lovely bats

Not sure who makes them now. Yes he said the same regarding salix… and a bit more

Yes, not sure who made the Halcyon (think I remember asking and they said they were trialling Indian imports?). Had it knocked and prepared by Martin Berrill as he's just down the road from me, and it goes like a rocket since he got his hands on it.
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2023, 06:44:42 PM »

Very simply for his reputation alongside a brand that’s well designed and shapes that are on point. Keeps its simple with the 3 shapes. His skill is superb and crafted over 30 years in the game. However from what iv seen Robert James, Ed Garrard, Danny Owens, Matt Barton, James Dollive, @jonny77 and maybe even myself given 30 years in the game will be as good. For his Age and maybe I’m biased but Ed is superb for someone in his twenties
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2023, 07:00:22 PM »

Ed's pressing is outstanding, would be nice if his stock shapes weren't all quite so scalloped though!
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2023, 08:20:48 PM »

For his Age and maybe I’m biased but Ed is superb for someone in his twenties

I have two bats from Ed and would certainly agree with this
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Re: What makes Keeley so good?
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2023, 11:31:05 PM »

Ed's pressing is outstanding, would be nice if his stock shapes weren't all quite so scalloped though!

To achieve optimum selling potential you have to make 2.7 to 2.10 max bats which is is mark now with a release every week of a handful of bats. Like iv found out over the last couple of years I can make a lively full shape with the dimensions that are required edge wise etc but the majority will be 2.11 plus and no matter now good I know they are they never sell as quickly as a bat I list at 2lb 8oz.
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