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Etsy custom bat order
« on: November 26, 2023, 07:52:44 PM »

Hey all

I contacted a seller from India for 2 custom order bats. I asked for g1, 2.9, 10 grains, semi oval handle, one bat with mid middle for general strokeplay and one with low middle for slogging and low bouncing wickets.

He has sent me these photos if the willow he has picked out. I thought the grains should be straighter and the spine should be thicker. What do you guys think?
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2023, 07:54:05 PM »

I can't attach any photos! Ive compressed the photos from 5mb to 400kb but cant do any more! How can I upload the photos please?
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2023, 07:58:40 PM »

Go to postimages.org, click 'choose images' to select pictures from your phone. Click 'hotlink for forums', then copy link into CBF thread. Post
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2023, 12:51:33 AM »

Go to postimages.org, click 'choose images' to select pictures from your phone. Click 'hotlink for forums', then copy link into CBF thread. Post

thanks a lot. here are the photos:









I am paying £500 altogether plus £20 shipping. Would like to know your opinions. TIA
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2023, 07:11:04 AM »

My opinion would be that I wouldn't spend £500 on bats from Etsy. You could get them for the same money direct from a respected Indian batmaker, or for not much more from the UK. These don't exactly look custom, as the profiles look the same in the pics.

Send a link to the Etsy posting, would be interesting to see what they're promising.
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2023, 07:37:00 AM »

I am not sure about those bats, they don't look right to me.
Is there a batmaker on here who could confirm if the one on the left has storm damage too?

Genuinely for £520 buy local is my view.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2023, 08:18:30 AM »

Hard to tell on pictures, but I can't see anything obvious in terms of storm damage from what I've experienced. It almost looks like it's for a bleached butterfly stain at the top.

Be interesting to see the ad/post, but either way I wouldn't be spending 500 notes on bats through Etsy personally. Unless it was from a respected batmaker. Not sure about advertise on Etsy tho.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2023, 08:34:59 AM »

Thank you to everyone for your responses. My apologies as there was a typing error. Its actually £400 I'm paying for the bats. I thought £200 for a g1 bat sounds great. The company is called woodberry. They have v high ratings and reviews on etsy for all their bats. All the customers seemed impressed with their purchases. Do you guys think its g1?

Here is a link to the company on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/WoodberrySports?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=886850785&from_page=listing
« Last Edit: November 27, 2023, 09:17:57 AM by drmimran »
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2023, 08:55:13 AM »

The handle on the bat to the right in the picture does not look to be fitted properly hard to tell from the photos but looks like there’s a gap.
Again hard to see exactly but the bat on the right looks to have a mark that’s similar to storm damaged pattern.

Grade 1 can be subjective but if it was a UK purchase I would not say it was.

As I say thou top grade willow can be defined differently depending who you speak to
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2023, 10:08:57 AM »

Thank you to everyone for your responses. My apologies as there was a typing error. Its actually £400 I'm paying for the bats. I thought £200 for a g1 bat sounds great. The company is called woodberry. They have v high ratings and reviews on etsy for all their bats. All the customers seemed impressed with their purchases. Do you guys think its g1?

Here is a link to the company on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/WoodberrySports?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=886850785&from_page=listing

It's a very good price if it's actually G1 English Willow (grown in England and not India or Eastern Europe) and is free from defects etc. I see a lot of 'G1' bats on Instagram etc which have defects, or bark incursion etc with filled in holes which would have been bought as sub grade clefts. I know this goes on and I've heard from willows suppliers that some brands will take a lot of their sub grades and make G1s from them (stickers can hide a lot!)

Now it maybe that they're selling G1s for 200 quid, but why would you if that's my way below market value? G1 Clefts to buy in raw state aren't cheap and you have to buy a good percentage of other grades to get G1s, you can't just buy G1s alone. So, it doesn't make any sense to sell these cheap. So that doesn't add up on to me.

In terms of reviews, these can come from anywhere and be manipulated. Not saying these are, but it's not difficult so I'm always wary of online reviews such as these. They also claim a guaranteed 10-20% extra power, which is almost impossible to quantify and prove. I'd also like to know more about their lifetime guarantee for handles and also where in the MCC laws it bc states 44mm is the max edge size.

However, this is the kicker for me though.....the picture below is taken from a batmakers workshop in the UK, as is the other on showing the bat in the vice. In recognize the press, the background, vice and the sandpaper discs. i can almost say with 100% certainty, this isn't where these are made. Personally, that would be a red flag to me. Appreciate he doesn't state they are, but using someone else's pictures to promote your own work/brand etc isn't great form.




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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2023, 10:10:40 AM »

What's your route to customer service should anything go wrong with them regarding damage, wrong weight etc?

Willow grading is very subjective and whilst they look ok for my money I'd rather be looking to buy something for £210 that's landed in the UK and I can pick from be it from a local batmaker or retailer in their "Black Friday" sales.

By comparison of the only Indian-made bats I stock, A2 Classify the below as a G2's but many would prob pass it off as a G1 and for similar money it's great value.

https://www.thecricketboutique.co.uk/a2--vertex-cricket-bat--288oz-4459-p.asp
https://www.thecricketboutique.co.uk/a2--vertex-cricket-bat--290oz-4457-p.asp
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2023, 10:14:51 AM »

It's a very good price if it's actually G1 English Willow (grown in England and not India or Eastern Europe) and is free from defects etc. I see a lot of 'G1' bats on Instagram etc which have defects, or bark incursion etc with filled in holes which would have been bought as sub grade clefts. I know this goes on and I've heard from willows suppliers that some brands will take a lot of their sub grades and make G1s from them (stickers can hide a lot!)

Now it maybe that they're selling G1s for 200 quid, but why would you if that's my way below market value? G1 Clefts to buy in raw state aren't cheap and you have to buy a good percentage of other grades to get G1s, you can't just buy G1s alone. So, it doesn't make any sense to sell these cheap. So that doesn't add up on to me.

In terms of reviews, these can come from anywhere and be manipulated. Not saying these are, but it's not difficult so I'm always wary of online reviews such as these. They also claim a guaranteed 10-20% extra power, which is almost impossible to quantify and prove. I'd also like to know more about their lifetime guarantee for handles and also where in the MCC laws it bc states 44mm is the max edge size.

However, this is the kicker for me though.....the picture below is taken from a batmakers workshop in the UK, as is the other on showing the bat in the vice. In recognize the press, the background, vice and the sandpaper discs. i can almost say with 100% certainty, this isn't where these are made. Personally, that would be a red flag to me. Appreciate he doesn't state they are, but using someone else's pictures to promote your own work/brand etc isn't great form.




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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2023, 10:20:58 AM »

You're actually trusting the pictures above are of my the actual bats you'll receive too. There's definitely something in the old saying of 'if something seems too good to be true, it generally is' in most scenarios.

I'd charge £570 for a custom G1 and G3, which is s by no means expensive in the current climate. So, 400 for 2 x G1s just sets alarm bells ringing.....as does the their website and Google reviews!

Buying them would make a good thread tho if you've got money to potentially waste. If you're in the UK, send them to me and I'll happily give  an honest opinion and do a thread/review on all aspects of be them. I'll even prep them with a scuff and toe guard for you for free 😆
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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2023, 10:34:27 AM »

The Google reviews for them are probably enough to out most people off.

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Re: Etsy custom bat order
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2023, 11:06:21 AM »

I wouldn't be going anywhere near that TBH. Speak to a local batmaker (plenty of them on here) and get the peace of mind from doing so, as well as the fact you're buying local.

Fwiw out of idle curiosity I spoke to Wonberry about 12 months ago around their Mongoose shape (always wanted one, don't have £700 to drop on an original). The pics they sent me had fake WCW stickers on them. Didn't fill me with confidence it's fair to say!
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