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GM Aion Signature width
« on: March 26, 2024, 07:12:35 PM »

Long story short, bought an Aion Signature online.

Looked really narrow so measured the width, turned out to be 104 mm. Needless to say all packed and on its way back.

Really disappointed tbh as I hold GM in high regard.

Anyone else experienced this?
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2024, 11:53:35 PM »

I believe @SOULMAN1012 also discovered one to be narrow.
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2024, 08:19:22 AM »

Will measure up the ones I’ve got when in the office shortly
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2024, 12:02:21 PM »

on the calipers..

404 @105.52mm (2.9.3oz)
606 @ 105.34mm (2.9.0)
Sig @104.74mm (2.9.0)

My take is that something has to give to get a full profile L555 blade bat at weights under 2.9. However, if they are sacrificing some width to get the full shape then at least be transparent about it as B3 have with their Ultra range.
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2024, 12:16:19 PM »

You will recall the md of GM denied it at launch …

Perhaps was not aware ..
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2024, 12:30:21 PM »

The Mana & Kyros are all 108mm by comparison
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2024, 12:31:47 PM »

I agree but I always had GM as being one of the companies with great quality control that stuck to measurements especially using CNC.

As they say best buy a bat in person, just felt as it was GM i was safe.

on the calipers..

404 @105.52mm (2.9.3oz)
606 @ 105.34mm (2.9.0)
Sig @104.74mm (2.9.0)

My take is that something has to give to get a full profile L555 blade bat at weights under 2.9. However, if they are sacrificing some width to get the full shape then at least be transparent about it as B3 have with their Ultra range.
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2024, 01:00:07 PM »

Most of the Aion and the Brava range I saw this year had been pretty narrow, around 105mm in width. It does allow for a bigger looking bat at a lower weight, which retailers and customers will generally want, alongside the flatter face just gives that illusion of more volume than there actually is. 3mm ends up being approximately 1oz lost in weight overall, and depending on spine:edge ratio, probably approximately 1mm larger appearance as you cut into the bulk of the wood
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2024, 11:38:54 PM »

Thing is, the reason for this is due to customer demand. Not saying it's you @Yorkershire as I know it's not, but people are demanding large bats at light weights. So, something has to give to produce this consistently. If it wasn't GM, most people would accept it. So why should they be any different.

I'd rather not do it, but it's becoming common practice now. Sm oz saving shouldn't mean a lot, but big difference for people looking for a 2lbs 9oz bat and not willing to accept a 2lbs 10oz bat.
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2024, 10:53:21 AM »


I think it was really my disappointment that it was GM more than anything and it was a whole 4 mm on a new adult SH bat. I've had bats that have been refurbed etc.. and have gone down to 106 ish...

I think maybe Manufacturers need to be open about it like B3 have done. I appreciate this has been going on for a while with some other manufacturers over the years.
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2024, 04:12:42 PM »

For me the lack of transparency was what really disappointed me with GM.

Even now on there website bat description nothing to inform the customer is a Harrow width bat to give the full profile at desired weights or even some marketing BS to let the customer know would be great and should be the case.

There is a clear difference between this and the rest of the range in terms of width so allow customers to know this
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2024, 04:58:59 PM »

Is the MD around perhaps to address this
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2024, 05:48:21 PM »

time to take the tape measure to the new GM i bought. Rather stupidly ive never thought to measure the width on bats from UK brands that make their bats here.
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2024, 07:40:01 PM »

From my experience, widths vary from 104 - 111 generally in UK bats. Sometimes you have to take into account that a batmaker may have slipped up with a tool or during sanding, or there may be blemishes/knots/dead wood they're looking to get rid of. In this case, it does appear to be intentional to get a bigger looking stock shape.


I've been told Babar asks for his bats to be narrowed, and also been told/heard from multiple sources that a large majority of pros have narrower bats. (Under 106mm)


Thing is, with the demand to fill the gauge in all dimensions to a weight limit of 2.10, or rather large bats at 2.8, you can see why some might decide to narrow, especially if counterparts across the sea have been employing this trick for years. If it doesn't sit well with you, then absolutely send the bat back as @Yorkershire has done
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2024, 08:00:24 PM »

I can understand it from your top pros, they middle the ball so often and (especially in T20) a nick off the edge isn't necessarily a bad result.

I'm sure it's been raised before but how much weight are you saving with a couple mm thickness of the blade?
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