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jonny77

Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2024, 03:25:33 PM »

I use a bat with 34mm edges and it’s a gun but seems to be one of a kind

There are plenty of bats with smaller edges which are guns. Pretty decent and fine for 38mm edges is my whole point. These size edges are now expected, as the terminology used makes everyone think they're the norm, regardless of scale weight. They're not.
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2024, 04:00:41 PM »

Is 34 mm more realistic for a bat maker to work with with the average weight of a cleft to get full width ?
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2024, 05:56:17 PM »

Depends on many factors mate. Full, concaving, profile, handle, toe thickness, spine height etc. Even down to grip, binding. Better to not specificy 'specs' and let the batmaker make you a great bat regardless imo
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2024, 06:18:59 PM »

Has the addition of ‘the gauge’ only
Increased the arms race for big light bats?
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2024, 06:45:33 PM »

Has the addition of ‘the gauge’ only
Increased the arms race for big light bats?

That, social media, t20 and CBF! 😂
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2024, 07:28:48 PM »

Has the addition of ‘the gauge’ only
Increased the arms race for big light bats?

I don't recall much of a focus on bat specs before the restrictions came into force

There is a logic though in wanting the max specs possible if you are told by the games' law makers that bigger edges and spine heights distort the game so much in the favour of the batter that they need to be limited

Personally I think the bat regs were a very poor idea in the first place - massive improvements in strength and conditioning, practicing range hitting and an emphasis on taking risks have played a much bigger part in my view on the ability of Batters to clear the rope than the size of bats has
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2024, 07:31:11 PM »

I don't recall much of a focus on bat specs before the restrictions came into force

There is a logic though in wanting the max specs possible if you are told by the games' law makers that bigger edges and spine heights distort the game so much in the favour of the batter that they need to be limited

Personally I think the bat regs were a very poor idea in the first place - massive improvements in strength and conditioning, practicing range hitting and an emphasis on taking risks have played a much bigger part in my view on the ability of Batters to clear the rope than the size of bats has

You say that but then you had crazy bats like Warners kaboom and the GN Halestorm knocking around. I think the focus now is more on a fuller profile
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2024, 08:21:26 PM »

In my (albeit fairly limited) time as a batmaker, I'd say big specs were more asked for more than full profile. The issue is now, people are expecting both! 😆
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2024, 09:10:01 PM »

You say that but then you had crazy bats like Warners kaboom and the GN Halestorm knocking around. I think the focus now is more on a fuller profile

You could give Geoff Boycott 5 full days with the Kaboom and he still wouldn't have managed to hit off the square

Conversely since the bat regs came in to force batting records are being obliterated
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2024, 09:14:21 PM »

Sport science has a lot to answer for 😂
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2024, 09:38:08 PM »

The thing is now that lots of cricketers have grown up with big bats, so it's very difficult to convince them big bats aren't necessarily better. No matter how many clips of Gilchrist etc you show them!
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2024, 11:10:33 PM »

You could give Geoff Boycott 5 full days with the Kaboom and he still wouldn't have managed to hit off the square

Conversely since the bat regs came in to force batting records are being obliterated

Thats more to do with how batting is coached and the players treating their fitness like pro athletes unlike the lot from the early 2000s. Im pretty sure the average pro today would do the business with any bat from the last 15 years or so.
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2024, 05:40:29 PM »

Geoff Boycott did well to score 8114 Test runs without hitting the ball off the square.
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2024, 02:01:25 PM »

Thats more to do with how batting is coached and the players treating their fitness like pro athletes unlike the lot from the early 2000s. Im pretty sure the average pro today would do the business with any bat from the last 15 years or so.

That was my point, the acceleration in scoring rates and boundary clearing isn't due to bigger bats
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Re: GM Aion Signature width
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2024, 02:24:25 PM »

The one argument I think you could make about bats now is that they are manufactured to perform at their optimum quicker and last less time. You hear about players in the 70s/80s using 5 bats across a season, now even guys who are not big hitters like Joe Root are taking 7/8 bats for a 6 week tour.
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