‘After Tea Bat’ Bat Weight Feel Vs Reality Scale Weight
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Purist90

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Greetings all,
I hope we are all enjoying sunnier and dryer days at long last!

I wonder if any of my fellow members have the same issue I am experiencing so far this spring?
My issue is, having a lack of energy after fielding/bowling first which is making the cricket bat feel increasingly heavier whilst batting 2nd innings ?? 🥵🥵

It is still early days in the long season ahead and we are all still finding our fitness & form (I think Ive just about ran off Christmas dinner by now, just the other 11 days to go).
But I am seriously wondering if Id benefit with a lighter ‘After Tea Bat’ to use after fielding/bowling first innings has sapped my energy.

I am currently using a well balanced lightweight 2,10.5 bat which all teammates are convinced feels no more than 2,8.
Which is the reason I love the bat.
Perfect!
But in reality it isn’t 2,7-2,8 so I assume it does take more energy to wield a 2,10?

I realise that middle position influences feel vs scale weight.
My 2,10 is more mid/low position (thick oval handle).
Maybe if my 2,10 scale weight was distributed differently to be a mid/high middle position that would also save me some energy?

Ive recently checked out Salix, purely because every Salix I personally have ever felt for size have been super lightweight feeling.
And I notice Salix bats are very mid-mid & mid-high middle positioned. As are a whole host of Asian brands renowned for huge specs with tiny weights. 

Or….Is it the complete opposite needed
Do I need a heavier bat??

I do feel this is a problem niggling away at me. And net practice regularly confirms it too.
But I find it very hard to trust current brands versions of a 2,7 bat nowadays as shoulders & toes have no longevity in mind.

Any advice as usual is greatly appreciated
Best, P90
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Chad

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Re: ‘After Tea Bat’ Bat Weight Feel Vs Reality Scale Weight
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2024, 12:04:12 PM »

Don't overthink it too much! I'd say address the lack of energy after fielding/bowling first - it'll give you far more satisfaction and be far more beneficial in the long run. Make sure you're eating well throughout the week, working on your fitness and don't have too heavy a tea. It'll improve your focus and also your stamina.

That being said, I do get it that sometimes, you have days where you've not had a good rest, or it's been baking hot on the field, or just been stressed all week. If you're in the fortunate position to have multiple bats - on match days, I'll try have 2 bats I've used fairly substantially in the nets, and pick them both up. Whichever feels the nicest on the day will get used. If I'm feeling particularly sluggish, I'll tend to go with the slightly lighter one. Out in the middle or in the nets, if I'm thinking of anything other than focussing on the ball, playing it on merit and trying to score runs, then I'm not batting correctly. In the end, unless the bat suffers a catastrophic failure whilst playing a shot correctly, the reason isn't really ever going to be the bat if I get out!
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Re: ‘After Tea Bat’ Bat Weight Feel Vs Reality Scale Weight
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2024, 12:17:05 PM »

don't have too heavy a tea.

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Re: ‘After Tea Bat’ Bat Weight Feel Vs Reality Scale Weight
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2024, 01:13:38 PM »

As @Chad  has mentioned, it's very rarely the bat which is the issue. People talk about scale weight all the time, but an oz is a multi packet of Walkers crisps. If that (or even that times two) spread over the entire bat is an what people feel is causing them to be sluggish/show on certain shots etc, then I'd suggest fitness and mental fatigue is more the issue.

People overthink batting way too much imo and it then ends up becoming a mental issue. Added to the physical fatigue, this ends up being a bigger issue and most people will address it with a change of equipment first, rather than admitting an issue anywhere else. Maybe because this is an easier fix than the alternative, which is harder work, fitness training, concentration. Or maybe it's just finding a reason to buy more bats! 😆 Who knows?!

I've been keeping this season and 50 overs (generally under the lid stood up), has meant I've felt tired batting second and my scores have reflected this. However, I've never once thought my 2lbs 11oz match bat was the issue, more struggling to concentrate etc. I'm 5ft 6" btw and although I've been working on my fitness, I'm by no means in the peak of my powers physically!

We can all look for an easier fix and there's nothing wrong with that if it's viable. But you could use a 2lbs 4oz harrow and you'd still be knackered, I honestly don't think it would help, apart from maybe mentally.
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Re: ‘After Tea Bat’ Bat Weight Feel Vs Reality Scale Weight
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2024, 09:23:46 PM »

How very CBF-unlike replies! 😂
But agree you’re all right, fitness should improve in another few weeks.
Cheers for the support lads. Reassuring to know 👍
Johnny can I ask, what is your opinion on bats under 2,8?
In terms of performance and longevity wise?
I get the impression you prefer not having to make one if possible? Or is it more the specs expected by the customers?
But just like the brilliant video you put out recently talking about small specs still performing exactly the same Ive been advocating the same words for years.
I remember in the early 00s thinking how massive a 20mm edge looked compared to previous bat. And they pinged the same!
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2024, 06:40:32 AM »

Just trying to give my honest opinion. Maybe what I should be saying is yes, get a lighter bat and all your troubles will be over! I just don't think that's the case tho.

I don't mind making lighter bats, I've made adult bats at 2lb 6oz the issue is that most people still expect maxing the gauge at 2lbs 7oz, which just isn't really possible and so you're constantly trying to manage expectations. That and the fact that I honestly feel it's too light and if well balanced, a 2lb 9oz is easily manageable.Unless there are specific issues requiring a much lighter bat. So you generally end up making them lighter and smaller, which nobody cares to see on here or on socials. Or u make them bigger and the customer accepts a few ounces heavier, or they buy a drier, thinner etc bat elsewhere. Generally though, people going lighter is mostly due to people believing it's the key to ending their woes, but still expecting 40mm edges.

In terms of that, you'll probably know how much I hate talking specs. In my opinion scoring runs and hitting big consistently comes down to strength/power, technique/skill, conditions and a good bat (that doesn't mean a big one). If you can't hit big with a 2lb 10oz bat with 20mm edges, I'd bet you cant hit big with a 2lbs 10oz bat with 40mm edges IMO. Biggest six I saw last year was with an I'll hunts bat with tiny edges. If you gave me any bat in the world I couldn't hit the same shot, as I'm just not that type of player and don't have that ability/power now. I've been playing cricket for over 30 years and can assure you that growing up playing a decent standard in the Central Yorkshire Ieauge, people hit massive sixes and scored runs consistently with small edge bats back in the days, way before the gauge was ever considered. So how was that possible if it's big bats which equal performance?! Doesn't stack up to me.

 If made well, they'd still last.
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Re: ‘After Tea Bat’ Bat Weight Feel Vs Reality Scale Weight
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2024, 11:56:11 AM »

Totally agree with all you said Johnny.
And in terms of 40mm spec being a psychological benefit, the last thing I want is to feel Ive got a railway sleeper in my hand! So I steer well away from them. Just need the thin handle fashion to fade away.
Cheers for your time mate,
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Re: ‘After Tea Bat’ Bat Weight Feel Vs Reality Scale Weight
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2024, 12:23:31 PM »

Paul Nixon used to have a lighter bat for when his normal bat felt heavy.
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