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thegowerwaft

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Getting old
« on: September 08, 2024, 09:12:44 AM »
So... end of season(ish) and time for reflection.

Getting to an age where I will be starting/ have started my second playing time (getting old and accepting you're village 🤣).

Question - to keep bowling did you folks/ will you folks move to:

A/ Trying spin.

or

B/ Bowling slow filth/ dibble cobblers.

Looking to work on stuff over the winter and interested in your experiences.
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2024, 03:15:04 PM »
I've accepted I'm old a few seasons ago. This season partway I switched to playing for a team that plays friendlies with mixed abilities.. think I have found my happy place going forward.. Unless I make a serous effort at my fitness I think I'm retiring from league cricket and having a fun based weekend instead. Social cricket way to go...
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2024, 03:55:11 PM »
Worth giving spin a crack. I (if you're being kind about the pace) bowl mediums in league cricket on the weekend, but this year I've been bowling offies in midweek and social stuff. It's a good laugh and you might just surprise yourself.
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2024, 04:16:22 PM »
100% give spin a go. I’ve bowled it with limited ability for a while but have really worked on it the older I’ve got, and it’s surprising how much respect even modest finger spin gets given, and how many batsmen contrive getting out to even the accidental half trackers!

If you’ve bowled seam up previously then you’re 90% of the way to having a good arm ball in your armoury, which definitely trips people up. The only other thing I’d suggest is a bit of strengthening work in the gym over the winter… I was close to hanging up the boots at 45, but putting a bit of work in a couple of times a week for a few months over the winter has got me through another couple of seasons fairly unscathed. The Sunday/Monday aching is still murder though…
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2024, 08:41:25 PM »
If you think bowling spin isn't physically demanding, you probably aren't doing it right. Or so I'm told  ;)
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2024, 08:43:21 PM »
Quote from: thegowerwaft on September 08, 2024, 09:12:44 AM

A/ Trying spin.

or

B/ Bowling slow filth/ dibble cobblers.



This blurs into one thing at lower levels?
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SOULMAN1012

Re: Getting old
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2024, 10:04:33 PM »
Put it in the right area and allow natural variation to do the work for you. Spin takes some learning and length is as if not more important than actually turn. I’d you when bowled seam up continue to do so as you are I’ll have a muscle memory for length and iv gone over the last 5-6 years form medium pace to flow medium and been just as effective. That’s my views
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2024, 03:10:20 PM »
I moved from a military medium to a dibbly dobbler pie chucker in my 40s. I think the control of line and length is so much more important than how much you can move it. But you do need to be able to get some variation. Simply changing pace (slower/quicker/stock) is a straightforward one to use. And as you get more used to spinning it then you can bring in those variations too (arm ball/big rip/stock etc.). So after a few months you suddenly realise you can bowl a range of deliveries and adapt depending on conditions and opposition.
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2024, 06:17:23 PM »
Strong responses, folks.

Lots to work on in the off season.

Currently, enjoying listening to the great Mr Lyon.

https://youtu.be/MfaPGMYmQmI?si=rZzuqMQODxX7BTGU
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2024, 07:15:23 AM »
Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on September 08, 2024, 10:04:33 PM
Put it in the right area and allow natural variation to do the work for you. Spin takes some learning and length is as if not more important than actually turn. I’d you when bowled seam up continue to do so as you are I’ll have a muscle memory for length and iv gone over the last 5-6 years form medium pace to flow medium and been just as effective. That’s my views

Agree on length. As a keeper who converted to SLA when the idea of 250 squats in an afternoon felt unachievable, what works for me is being able to land the ball in roughly the same place every time, but varying my flight and pace to get it there. A bit of spin looks good but honestly, anything more than turning from middle and off to off stump is wasted on casual cricketers. About once an innings I'll get one to rip from middle to outside off and they never take wickets as batters just can't get near them. Beating the batter in the flight gets me plenty of bowled and lbw, and a fair share of skied catches.
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2024, 04:30:48 PM »
Quote from: willmau5 on September 10, 2024, 07:15:23 AM
Beating the batter in the flight

AKA they missed it.
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2024, 10:19:07 PM »
I’d suggest bowling whatever you enjoy bowling. I look at the youngsters running rings round me in terms of athleticism and ability. But also get huge inspiration from the players 10 years older than me. So you just have to carry on otherwise you won’t be able to.
I think you would be a captains dream player if you can bowl a bit of medium swing and a bit of useful spin. From opener with new ball one week to end of innings spinner the next. A bit of variety might give you 2nd wind next season too. New season, new me! Type thing. Can you get as many wickets seam up as you can filthy spin? Nice challenge for you. 🤣
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2024, 06:29:05 AM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on September 10, 2024, 04:30:48 PM
AKA they missed it.

I'm taking the credit. Just like I do when they slap a filthy long hop to deep mid wicket. All part of the plan.
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2024, 11:31:21 AM »
Quote from: Purist90 on September 10, 2024, 10:19:07 PM
I’d suggest bowling whatever you enjoy bowling. I look at the youngsters running rings round me in terms of athleticism and ability. But also get huge inspiration from the players 10 years older than me. So you just have to carry on otherwise you won’t be able to.
I think you would be a captains dream player if you can bowl a bit of medium swing and a bit of useful spin. From opener with new ball one week to end of innings spinner the next. A bit of variety might give you 2nd wind next season too. New season, new me! Type thing. Can you get as many wickets seam up as you can filthy spin? Nice challenge for you. 🤣

I think this is where I am aiming next year. I remember, with great fondness, someone who did this in the adult side I started playing in many years ago. Always present, always supportive and still getting stuck in.

Lots to ponder/ work on over the winter.
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Re: Getting old
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2024, 04:13:53 PM »
Quote from: thegowerwaft on September 08, 2024, 09:12:44 AM
So... end of season(ish) and time for reflection.

Getting to an age where I will be starting/ have started my second playing time (getting old and accepting you're village 🤣).

Question - to keep bowling did you folks/ will you folks move to:

A/ Trying spin.

or

B/ Bowling slow filth/ dibble cobblers.

Looking to work on stuff over the winter and interested in your experiences.

Whether you bowl or bat, club cricket does require a level of fitness and skill. Trick is finding a level where you can comfortably maintain your good game. If one is lucky, they can find clubs/leagues with sufficient skill/level variety to accomodate players of different interest and skill/fitness levels. Trick is finding that club/league. Second trick is finding your own balance of time investment required to maintain that fitness and skill level.

Cricket requires a lot of work - both for players and organizers/managers of games. As long as you enjoy the (otherwise) cumbersome process of making cricket happen, you can find time and energy to make cricket happen. Key is passion or love for the activity. If the passion starts to wane or life exerts other priorities on you, cricket falls by the way side.

Keep the passion alive and you will find means to make it work. If you start losing interest, that is alright as well. There are other fun things you can do.

PS: There are people out there who profess to love "fielding". It sounds so disingenuous.  Please don't be that guy!
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