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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2010, 10:44:20 PM »

apple you could not compare it at all a daft comment in my book. the standard is so much better now so why did nobody else average nothing like bradman did.

in the modern era there a few we call worldclass all averaging similar tendulkar,lara,ponting

but in bradman day nodoby got near to averaging near to him so he stood head and shoulders above anybody by a mile so he has to be a cricketing great.

remember as well most of today middling technique is due to the great man as well

and it is no suprise his middling technique were all using today was born from him.

remember advances have been made in both batting,bowling ,fielding,pitches but he must have been ahead of his time to average what he did
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2010, 10:47:57 PM »

i read somewhere that WG Grace scored every score between 0 and 200.

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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2010, 11:07:53 PM »

apple you could not compare it at all a daft comment in my book. the standard is so much better now so why did nobody else average nothing like bradman did.

in the modern era there a few we call worldclass all averaging similar tendulkar,lara,ponting

but in bradman day nodoby got near to averaging near to him so he stood head and shoulders above anybody by a mile so he has to be a cricketing great.

remember as well most of today middling technique is due to the great man as well

and it is no suprise his middling technique were all using today was born from him.

remember advances have been made in both batting,bowling ,fielding,pitches but he must have been ahead of his time to average what he did

Im not saying that Bradman wasnt a great, he was the best for his time but is he the best who has ever lived?
for his Era and for the standard he played yes, but if a test player was playing in that era hyperthaticly speaking, they would probley be leagues above everyone, with only bradman close to them.
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2010, 11:28:45 PM »

What a stupid post

Well 99.9% (or was it 99.4?) of the stuff I post is crap.....
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« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2010, 11:59:23 PM »

Bradman, also he could slog - he once made a 100 of 22 balls in a club match.
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #65 on: April 05, 2010, 12:16:19 AM »

whatever you say about the don like "all the bowlers were crap" his average is almost twice that of our modern day icons. surely if the standard was so poor there would be a spaight of players with such critical acclaim and such high averages... this is not the case. cricket is a numbers game it is not a question of "how?" but a question of "how many?", on this basis there is no arguement that could lead to a conclusion of anything other than Sir Donald Bradman
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #66 on: April 05, 2010, 12:27:11 AM »

There were excellent bowlers then too!
The quality of bowlers is probably deeper now, right down to lower County level.
But the International bowlers were no worse than nowadays!

Not sure if Bradman would have adapted to T20 or ODI formats. But in Tests there's no doubt that Bradman was the best ever.
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #67 on: April 05, 2010, 01:14:01 AM »

What alot of people are overlooking is the simple fact of the # of matches being played today.. The physical aspect of the game not just the pace and power increase but the stamina to play so many matches and to be able to adapt to finishing a test match and going to a T20 format to a ODI format or in any order.. The players in this era have to adapt and change their style so much more.. Not taking anything away from the players of the past but the truth is with evolution of anything in life newer is always better..

For majority of Sachin's cricket career the idea of T20 cricket didn't exist but soon as the format of the game changed he changed with it and would still be one of the top picks for everyone in this format...

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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #68 on: April 05, 2010, 01:18:59 AM »

whatever you say about the don like "all the bowlers were crap" his average is almost twice that of our modern day icons. surely if the standard was so poor there would be a spaight of players with such critical acclaim and such high averages... this is not the case. cricket is a numbers game it is not a question of "how?" but a question of "how many?", on this basis there is no arguement that could lead to a conclusion of anything other than Sir Donald Bradman

A large number of them were
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #69 on: April 05, 2010, 07:14:24 AM »

A large number of them were
I vote the Don as batsman - he was also playing and scoring runs on uncovered wickets which were nothing like the batsman friendly roads we have now. Plus his bats/protection/shoes were nothing like as good and light as they are now. His record is truly awsome.
For me in the moden era Tendulkar seems to be like a fine wine - playing more match winnning innings now that at any time in his career, which should be counted as more important than just volume of runs. But Ponting, Viv and Steve Waugh also played a huge number of match winning knocks. 
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #70 on: April 05, 2010, 07:33:56 AM »

Viv Richards for me. Best bat ever in Tests and ODI's. Was years ahead of his time. Just imagine what he would have done in 20/20 !!! Never wore a helmet and this was when fast bowlers were fast, no law on one bouncer per over and all that. Had the privilege of watching him lots at Somerset in the glory years, so guess I'm a bit biased.
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #71 on: April 05, 2010, 09:00:30 AM »

Well 99.9% (or was it 99.4?) of the stuff I post is crap.....
Neither, it was 99.94. if you're going to bring stats into it, at least get them right!

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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #72 on: April 05, 2010, 09:18:06 AM »

Viv Richards for me. Best bat ever in Tests and ODI's. Was years ahead of his time. Just imagine what he would have done in 20/20 !!! Never wore a helmet and this was when fast bowlers were fast, no law on one bouncer per over and all that. Had the privilege of watching him lots at Somerset in the glory years, so guess I'm a bit biased.
he would be a huge draw at 2020- with his lollypop bowling too and wonderful fielding
what a legend
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #73 on: April 05, 2010, 09:43:53 AM »

Viv Richards would certainly be top of the list for 'most entertaining cricketer'!!  :D
Would be awesome viewing - especially in T20! CRUNCH!
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Re: Who is the best batsman/cricketer ever?
« Reply #74 on: April 05, 2010, 09:57:14 AM »

In my lifetime of 40 plus years IVA Richards is tops.  When he used to come to the crease as an England fan you used to shudder because you knew he was going to Destroy you.  The WCF in 1979 was probably the best example with England in control he smashes 138 no.  I remember him hitting the last ball of the innings off Mike Hendrick into the Tavern Stand. 

He was also one of the greatest fielders the game has ever seen.

However, for impact on the game and standing in the sport as a whole, Bradman is way above anyone.
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